Mangino was the offensive coordinator at Youngstown State when he came here.
Muschamp was the head coach of Florida and Pelini the head coach of Nebraska.
Not even close to a similar comparison.
Who will be our next Defensive Coordinator
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Mangino was the offensive coordinator at Youngstown State when he came here.
Muschamp was the head coach of Florida and Pelini the head coach of Nebraska.
Not even close to a similar comparison.
Pelini was born in Youngstown - where we got Mangino from. He was a grad assistant at Iowa - where McCarney was also a GA. Coincidence? I think not. We're a lock on this one.
Please explain using at least 2 statistics that you think we are ahead of expectations? Here's a few to choose from:
511 ypg (120th of 125 teams)
.467 opponent 3rd down conversion rate (117th)
.906 opp red zone scoring rate (115th)
250 ypg rushing (120th)
37.4 ppg (113th)
4.8 tackles for loss per game (104th)
Pelini and Muschamp wouldn't even consider for a second coming here for the HC job let alone to be our DC in a make-or-break year for the whole staff.
I'm all for shooting for the stars and what not but man, come on, lets be reasonable here for a second.
And the Mangino situation is in no way shape or form the same...
I'm all for shooting for the stars and what not but man, come on, lets be reasonable here for a second.
And the Mangino situation is in no way shape or form the same...
No doubt our defense is bad. No one said otherwise. But statistics don't mean everything. A team with more modest talent is most effective defensively by adopting a "bend but don't break" strategy. The idea is to give up something on the run and short pass in order to prevent the big play. Such a defense is going to give up more yards and have fewer tackles for loss. If the lack of talent is severe enough, there are more holes to plug than there are available plugs. I think our coaches have done about all that is possible to plug the holes with strategy and coaching. The personnel simply aren't there. Firing coaches is justified if there is a recognizable deficiency in teaching, tactics, recruiting, player development or some other identifiable thing that a different coach could do better. It makes no sense to just say "We're no good. Our stats are terrible! Fire the coaches!" with no analysis of what precisely a different coach might do differently. I believe right now we have good coaching on the offensive and defensive sides of the ball. As a casual fan, it's hard for me to say whether we're doing all that's possible in recruiting and strength and conditioning. It's a stretch to say we should fire coaches because we MIGHT do better in those areas. I believe we lost the last two games because our guys don't know how to win. They don't know how to find the wherewithal to make that last play or two to win a game. I don't believe coaches can always teach that, especially to players on a struggling team.
Most any other school would have fired their coach after five wins in two years. Yet we not did fire twice in a decade. Gene/Paul: Need a coin with ahead on each side. We are truly able to handle lowered expectations.
Many of these stats reek of a team and young men who have been over-"coached" to the point of losing their instinct and joy of playing football. This is poor coaching. We play hard to get to third down, and then we have a scheme where guys on third and 8 are back-pedaling still with a 9 foot cushion of players running the requisite 8 yard route. 1st down opposition! How many times? It is like our guys have no common sense....but we know they are good kids and they have just been harangued into no longer playing football. Same for a quarterback hook sliding a yard short on fourth and seven when he had the first down!?!?!!? We need more effort put into opposition research and reverse-coaching than brow-beating our own guys. Oh well, it is almost over.
It will be more of the same next year regardless. Unless they bring in 8 juco's minimum on defense alone they are guaranteed to suck next year. The line can't rush the passer or stop the run and the DB aren't good enough to play man or zone. Who on this defense are you really excited about coming back? s.o.s. different year! And the Lb's all seem to be 210 lbs.
Okay, Orr came for the money. Plain and simple. We were offering way more than Michigan was paying. That isn't going to happen with football. We pay our head coach last in the conference so our DC isn't going to make more. You can forgot the Orr comparison.
Maybe you came back to Iowa for your business but that means that (1) you must have been in Iowa before so you had some familiarity and (2) you wanted to come back. Muschamp has no ties to Iowa or the Midwest, as far as I know. So that comparison doesn't work.
I think there are some coaches who would be intrigued. But not a former high level DC who just flamed out as a head coach. Muschamp will have his pick of DC jobs. Again, he will have his pick of jobs. Why would he want to take a job knowing full well he could easily get canned the following year.
That makes absolutely, positively no sense. By your logic, Rhoads just as well call every DC in FBS football to see if any of them are willing to leave their job to become our DC. Why not? They might see an opportunity too.
demoncore1031
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Montana State's Jamie Marshall is at the top of my list. He's a Dubuque native that has really built a strong defense at a decent FCS school.
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demoncore1031
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He will be out of a job if the NCAA ever investigates Bama's recruiting policies.
