Who is the greatest Cyclone of all-time?

[BoxsterCy]

Shout out to the lineup my freshman year that got me hooked on ISU basketball:

Bill Cain
Jim Abrahamson
Dave Collins
Aaron Jenkins
Jack DeVilder
Rick Engel
Gene Mack

Cain was the man that year. 19.8 points and 15.2 rebounds per game. Probably the best ISU player in the category of those unknown or unheralded.

 

[bawbie]

Fair enough. Here's an interesting question: If Fizer stays for his senior year would he be the greatest cyclone of all time?

Certainly in the top 4. Especially if ****** doesn't happen.

So hard to predict the outcomes of that, but if he's the all-time leading scorer and made the two deepest runs into the tournament, yeah I think so.

And I say all of this as someone who was in school during that time and went hoarse yelling "one more year" during the last month of the season. Especially the last home game, Hilton echoed at top volume with "ONE MORE YEAR" over and over again.

 

[chadly82]

Grayer
Hoiberg
Niang
Morris

 

[cyhiphopp]

There's probably no Loren Meyer either if no Fred. Seriously Fred committing to the good guys was the biggest thing to ever happen to ISU athletics-wise.

I hate to argue, but Johnny was the precursor to both of these players. Player wise, you might have a point though.

 

[erikbj]

Funny to debate things that are impossible to come to a conclusion of right / wrong.

If Prohm is able to keep ISU nationally relevant, then Niang's 4 years were probably the most important in ISU history.

Fizer was the most dominating player in ISU history.

I was pretty young for the Grayer / Hornacek days - but I remember as a little kid watching those fools - they were talented.

Freddy had the greatest impact of the school.

 

[carvers4math]

I hate to argue, but Johnny was the precursor to both of these players. Player wise, you might have a point though.

Johnny was the wizard who created the magic.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Look I love Johnny, but I hate coach worship (Coach K, Boeheim, Knight, etc)

 

[NickTheGreat]

Greatest Cyclone? Fred Hoiberg. Runner Up: Georges Niang

Best player? I'll just go in my lifetime. Marcus Fizer

Fizer:
McDonalds All American
1st Team All Big 12 Twice (soph/junior years)
Big 12 POTY
1st Team All American
Taken 4th in the NBA Draft
Led the team to the Elite 8 (32-5 record)

Junior year stats:
22.8 ppg
7.7 rebounds
1.1 blocks
1.1 assists
58% FG
36% 3 PT

If he played one more year he would have likely broken Jeff Grayers scoring record.

My Mt Rushmore would have been difference from a pure bbal skill standpoint. I wonder who would win in 1 on 1 in their prime? Fizer vs Royce? Grayer vs Fred? Would be an interesting thing to think about too.

 

[Cat Stevens]

Roland Rocket. Has had an impact for decades past his playing days and part of the greatest upset in ISU history,

This is the Correct answer.

Best player, Grayer.
Biggest impact, Tinsley
Most dominant, Fizer

 

[Cat Stevens]

Greatest Cyclone? Fred Hoiberg. Runner Up: Georges Niang

Best player? I'll just go in my lifetime. Marcus Fizer

Fizer:
McDonalds All American
1st Team All Big 12 Twice (soph/junior years)
Big 12 POTY
1st Team All American
Taken 4th in the NBA Draft
Led the team to the Elite 8 (32-5 record)

Junior year stats:
22.8 ppg
7.7 rebounds
1.1 blocks
1.1 assists
58% FG
36% 3 PT

If he played one more year he would have likely broken Jeff Grayers scoring record.

Grater went for 25 and 10 his senior year. 22 and 8 as a jr. 20 and 7 as a sophomore.

 

[Go2Guy]

Shout out to the lineup my freshman year that got me hooked on ISU basketball:

Bill Cain
Jim Abrahamson
Dave Collins
Aaron Jenkins
Jack DeVilder
Rick Engel
Gene Mack

Cain was the man that year. 19.8 points and 15.2 rebounds per game. Probably the best ISU player in the category of those unknown or unheralded.

I fully agree; I might make a case for Greyer, or The Roland Rocket. But it's kinda painfully sorry to hear many opinions from those whose experience only goes back to 2013.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Certainly in the top 4. Especially if ****** doesn't happen.

So hard to predict the outcomes of that, but if he's the all-time leading scorer and made the two deepest runs into the tournament, yeah I think so.

And I say all of this as someone who was in school during that time and went hoarse yelling "one more year" during the last month of the season. Especially the last home game, Hilton echoed at top volume with "ONE MORE YEAR" over and over again.

By god. Put Fizer on that 2000-01 team with Tinsley, Horton, Sullivan, Rancik, and Shirley. They already went 25-4 regular season. Do they even lose a game with Fizer in there? They are definitely a 1 seed instead of the ill fated 2 seed they ended up as.

 

[Cat Stevens]

There's probably no Loren Meyer either if no Fred. Seriously Fred committing to the good guys was the biggest thing to ever happen to ISU athletics-wise.

He committed prior to Fred.

 

[Lexclone]

By god. Put Fizer on that 2000-01 team with Tinsley, Horton, Sullivan, Rancik, and Shirley. They already went 25-4 regular season. Do they even lose a game with Fizer in there? They are definitely a 1 seed instead of the ill fated 2 seed they ended up as.

Man! never bring that up again in any form. {jimlad, but seriously, never again}

Fizer was awesome, but that team isn't what it was without Tinsley. That dude was like no other player Iowa State has ever had. Additionally, Fred is nothing without Julius Michalik. Those dorm room hoops games between Hoiberg and Michalik were formative for Freddy {jimlad, but seriously, I loved Michalik fiercely due to his s-talking to Byron Houston during the epic-comeback game}.

Shout out to Johnny, without him, we aren't having a robust thread like this.

 

[carvers4math]

My freshman year featured the coaching giants, Lynn Nance and Rick Samuels, and players Chuck Harmison, Robert Estes, Dean Uthoff, Jon Ness, and crew. By my senior year woo-eee coach, we were just starting to cook with Coach Orr and Barry Stevens, Jeff Hornacek, the three Ronnies (Harris, Virgil, and Falenschek), and Terrence Allen.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Man! never bring that up again in any form. {jimlad, but seriously, never again}

Fizer was awesome, but that team isn't what it was without Tinsley. That dude was like no other player Iowa State has ever had. Additionally, Fred is nothing without Julius Michalik. Those dorm room hoops games between Hoiberg and Michalik were formative for Freddy {jimlad, but seriously, I loved Michalik fiercely due to his s-talking to Byron Houston during the epic-comeback game}.

Shout out to Johnny, without him, we aren't having a robust thread like this.

Trust me, the only reason I would bring up the game against the team that must not be named is to ponder the distinct possibility that it wouldn't have happened without Fizer.

Also, I definitely understand what Tinsley meant to that team. While we love all those guys, there's not another real superstar on the 00-01 team other than Tinsley. He was the engine of that team more than almost any player ever has been. Maybe Royce could compare to individual contribution to one team.

Give Tinsley someone like Fizer to work with in 00-01, and that team is as good as the Elite 8 team.

 

[UraMallas]

The greatest Cyclone is Niang followed by Fred. I agree with OP.

 

[Thomasrickj]

I would have to go with Georges Niang first, then Grayer, then Hoiberg, then Morris, fifth would be Thompson.

 

[oldwiseman]

I don't know about best ever but from a fan perspective but I loved WATCHING both Tinsley and Cato.

Royce White may be the best.

 

[CYcoFan]

Jack Trice
Clyde Williams
Gary Thompson
Pete Taylor
Johnny Orr

Those are the Greatest Cyclones of All Time