When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 54 6.7%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 8 1.0%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 144 17.7%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 185 22.8%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 421 51.8%

  • Total voters
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HFCS

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Had a chance to visit a Rivian store and a Lucid store last week out in Pasadena. I really liked the Rivians, if I was in the market for a new vehicle that would be pretty high up on my list. The Lucid was nice but... seemed awful stuffy, at least for me. I get it that upscale luxury is the market Lucid is going after but that's not really my thing.

I'm probably 5 years out from vehicle shopping but with the BEV truck options that I think I'll have between the Ford, Chevy/GMC, Rivian and Scout I'm going to go through some serious analysis paralysis.

R1T/R1S are too big for my tastes even if I didn't mind the price but I'm pretty sure I will want R2/R3 if/when they ever come out. Friend of mine has an R1S and an Ioniq 5 as his two vehicles, pretty ideal mix.
 

VeloClone

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Think of how safe and efficient it will be when all the humans are dead and gone.
How I now picture CascadeClone:

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CycloneSpinning

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Was out in Silicon Valley for work a few weeks ago. So wild to see so many Waymos around, and also how well they handle being surrounded by human drivers. Can only imagine how much simpler maneuvering would be once machine-driven cars can communicate with each other.
Was in San Francisco last summer, and the Waymo cars were one of the cooler things to see. (I don’t unfortunately recommend visiting that city overall.). We did see one turn out in front of a trolley. Good thing the guy was watching out for it. Overall they were very impressive though.
 

FLYINGCYCLONE

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Anyone get their electricity from Midland Coop? Their news letter talking about charging your vehicle, said it can be rather expensive, depending when you want to charge and how fast you charge? Maybe I misunderstood their explanation?
 

dmclone

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Anyone get their electricity from Midland Coop? Their news letter talking about charging your vehicle, said it can be rather expensive, depending when you want to charge and how fast you charge? Maybe I misunderstood their explanation?
No, but they have a pretty good calculator on their site.

 
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IcSyU

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Anyone get their electricity from Midland Coop? Their news letter talking about charging your vehicle, said it can be rather expensive, depending when you want to charge and how fast you charge? Maybe I misunderstood their explanation?
It's typically pretty simple:
Charge at home: dirt cheap. $.10-$.12 kWh. $10 to "fill" my wife's car (roughly 290 mi range). Our charger at home is about 7 kW.

Charge away from home: can be significantly more expensive. I've seen anywhere up to 6x. The Casey's in Albert Lea I frequently use for charging I think is $.64/kWh. It's barely cheaper than driving my truck. I could charge cheaper elsewhere but it won't be charging at 125 kW+.
 

Clonehomer

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Especially for pedestrians. I think human drivers would’ve killed me as a pedestrian 100s of times in LA if I trusted them to stop at stop signs. I assume they will kill me rather than respect a stop sign and I’m right a few times a month.

But think of how long it would take to drive across ISU campus. With self driving cars, students will be more comfortable just walking out into traffic causing the car to have to stop. It’ll be a long ride any place that the car has to maneuver pedestrians that just don’t care since they know they won’t get hit.
 
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do4CY

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Anyone get their electricity from Midland Coop? Their news letter talking about charging your vehicle, said it can be rather expensive, depending when you want to charge and how fast you charge? Maybe I misunderstood their explanation?
I do, it's around 12 cents/kwh. The newsletter talked about when they reach their peak usage that they agreed to with the companies they buy the electricity from, if they go above that peak they are charged extra. It doesn't say if they ever hit that peak and how often.
 

dmclone

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I do, it's around 12 cents/kwh. The newsletter talked about when they reach their peak usage that they agreed to with the companies they buy the electricity from, if they go above that peak they are charged extra. It doesn't say if they ever hit that peak and how often.
Sounds like they need to introduce time based charging. Have EV's charge at night when the demand is low. I think this is common in a lot of areas of the country. Mid America charges us 11 cents year round 24/7 so I don't adjust, but the cars software has the ability to only charge during a certain period.
 

do4CY

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Sounds like they need to introduce time based charging. Have EV's charge at night when the demand is low. I think this is common in a lot of areas of the country. Mid America charges us 11 cents year round 24/7 so I don't adjust, but the cars software has the ability to only charge during a certain period.
The article that this is coming from is talking about a pilot program to look into doing this. My wife and I both let our vehicles decide when to charge overnight, but her charger is slower so it sometimes starts right when she plugs in.
 

NWICY

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It's typically pretty simple:
Charge at home: dirt cheap. $.10-$.12 kWh. $10 to "fill" my wife's car (roughly 290 mi range). Our charger at home is about 7 kW.

Charge away from home: can be significantly more expensive. I've seen anywhere up to 6x. The Casey's in Albert Lea I frequently use for charging I think is $.64/kWh. It's barely cheaper than driving my truck. I could charge cheaper elsewhere but it won't be charging at 125 kW+.
What's the big truck stop right off 35 charge at Albert Lea? I'm guessing more?
 

IcSyU

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What's the big truck stop right off 35 charge at Albert Lea? I'm guessing more?
Not sure what it is at Trails. The Telsa chargers aren't compatible with her Mach E. I dont know how other manufacturers handle it but frankly Ford getting access to the Tesla charging network barely helped because it doesn't open up all Superchargers....just select newer ones.
 
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VeloClone

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But think of how long it would take to drive across ISU campus. With self driving cars, students will be more comfortable just walking out into traffic causing the car to have to stop. It’ll be a long ride any place that the car has to maneuver pedestrians that just don’t care since they know they won’t get hit.
People should be careful with this mindset. The cars will anticipate better but they can't change the laws of physics. Someone who walk out from behind a truck and can't be seen will likely get hit regardless of if it is a human or computer driving the vehicle.
 

livinthedream

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I voted never about 6 months ago…here’s my current situation. My wife’s 2018 Kia sorento dropped the motor last week. Took all of 30 minutes at the dealer to buy this model Y. I’m pretty impressed with this whole experience. Not quite ready to give up my f150, but as much as I was underwhelmed by that purchase this blows it out of the water fun wise. It’s like an iPad with wheels. The self driving feature is pretty incredible.
 

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dmclone

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I voted never about 6 months ago…here’s my current situation. My wife’s 2018 Kia sorento dropped the motor last week. Took all of 30 minutes at the dealer to buy this model Y. I’m pretty impressed with this whole experience. Not quite ready to give up my f150, but as much as I was underwhelmed by that purchase this blows it out of the water fun wise. It’s like an iPad with wheels. The self driving feature is pretty incredible.
Is this the new model Y? I've heard nothing negative about the redesign, people seem to love it.
 

HFCS

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I voted never about 6 months ago…here’s my current situation. My wife’s 2018 Kia sorento dropped the motor last week. Took all of 30 minutes at the dealer to buy this model Y. I’m pretty impressed with this whole experience. Not quite ready to give up my f150, but as much as I was underwhelmed by that purchase this blows it out of the water fun wise. It’s like an iPad with wheels. The self driving feature is pretty incredible.

For a multi-car home an EV for at least one of the cars has been the more convenient choice for a few years, if somebody is in a high gas price state it's also the $$$ saving choice. Hardly anybody needs both vehicles to be full sized trucks than can tow or full sized vans that need to haul 8 people.

I highly doubt anybody who can charge at home will ever want to go back to having multiple cars where neither is an EV.
 
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NWICY

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Saw a freighter load of EVs are on fire about 350 miles of the Alaska coast. The morning midas is the ship name I believe. Freighter was headed to Mexico.
 

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