When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 54 6.7%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 8 1.0%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 144 17.8%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 184 22.8%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 417 51.7%

  • Total voters
    807

simply1

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Rivian reliability would worry me a bit, but I have only seen a few articles around it so would need to look deeper.
 

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I’d love for someone to explain the variables of why they same fast charger hardware gives me different speeds different places/times.

I’ve had enough road trips now I bet I’ve charged at electrify America 12 times with my rate ranging from 29kwh to 111kwh. The 2023 version of my car (Solterra) is notoriously slow but I have the 2024 which I believe is just below average.
New Solterra looks like a nice upgrade
 

HFCS

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New Solterra looks like a nice upgrade

Keeps same reasonable price (but let’s be honest all prices are fantasy right now), adds some size/space, adds 20 miles of range, charge speed increased, keeps light off-road capability of which not many EVs have.
 

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New Solterra looks like a nice upgrade

I hadn’t seen the announcement, so just watched a couple videos.. looks like massively improved fast charging as well as compatibility with the Tesla network.

They also announced a new model, the Trailseeker EV, which looks closer to an Outback EV in both form and function, as opposed to an obviously rebranded Toyota.
 

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I hadn’t seen the announcement, so just watched a couple videos.. looks like massively improved fast charging as well as compatibility with the Tesla network.

They also announced a new model, the Trailseeker EV, which looks closer to an Outback EV in both form and function, as opposed to an obviously rebranded Toyota.

In my area, where Tesla became the most common new car brand like 8-9 years ago and EVs in general are very common, the Toyota/suburu/lexus version of this has gotten quite common despite the 230ish range. The last production of Chevy bolt and Chevy Bolt EUV are absolutely everywhere the past year. There’s a massive market here because an EV is typically the lowest cost of ownership new car or close to it. For a while a Model 3 was that and now I suspect Bolt is, bad timing for their one year gap.

The park where I charge on daily hikes very clearly switched from model 3 being most common to Chevy bolt being the most common. Various Kia/hyundai now about equal with model 3 and model y.

People like fueling for $40 a month instead of $220 a month.
 

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It does sound interesting.

Now all those people who say "Just give me a cheap car/truck without all the gimmicks" will now have an option. My guess is that a lot of people talk this way but when the rubber hits the road we'll hear

No radio
Bad range
After you actually get the things you want, it ends up costing $40k
Hero-Blank-Slate-and-SUV-e1745545804269.jpeg


I hope it does work out though. The more options the better.
 

Clonehomer

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It does sound interesting.

Now all those people who say "Just give me a cheap car/truck without all the gimmicks" will now have an option. My guess is that a lot of people talk this way but when the rubber hits the road we'll hear

No radio
Bad range
After you actually get the things you want, it ends up costing $40k
Hero-Blank-Slate-and-SUV-e1745545804269.jpeg


I hope it does work out though. The more options the better.

Why not just allow BYD into the US rather than making so many compromises to get to that price point?
 

CascadeClone

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I'm guessing it would have to do with saving the U.S. auto industry.
I am old enough to remember when Honda & Toyota were going to kill the Big3 in the 80s. Turned out the Big3 got their act together and started making better cars.

People always think business is a timed event, like a football game. It's not. Its more like evolution - adapt and change and survive. Then face the next threat which makes you adapt again.
 

dmclone

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I am old enough to remember when Honda & Toyota were going to kill the Big3 in the 80s. Turned out the Big3 got their act together and started making better cars.

People always think business is a timed event, like a football game. It's not. Its more like evolution - adapt and change and survive. Then face the next threat which makes you adapt again.
Me too. I remember in the early 80's when the big three were making complete junk and had 77% market share. 40 years later, they have bridged the gap......and have 42% market share. A couple million fewer cars being made by the big three every year. With that said, a lot of volume has went to foreign makers producing their cars in America, while the big three have been trending the opposite.
 

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It does sound interesting.

Now all those people who say "Just give me a cheap car/truck without all the gimmicks" will now have an option. My guess is that a lot of people talk this way but when the rubber hits the road we'll hear

No radio
Bad range
After you actually get the things you want, it ends up costing $40k
Hero-Blank-Slate-and-SUV-e1745545804269.jpeg


I hope it does work out though. The more options the better.
The flexibility of the different packs you can buy is interesting. Start with a single cab truck and buy the SUV kit to add seats, etc.
 

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The real value in EV's would be to make a small commuter car to fit what most workers use daily. 2 seat car, with limited mileage, 150 or less. Would people buy it though? That way you could limit the excessive weight, resources, and environmental impact needed to produce the battery.

This small pickup is close. The company should offer different options from the factory off the same platform rather than these silly kits as there's a limited number of folks willing and able to modify things themselves. I don't like the plastic body but may be best for this application. I also think a radio should be standard without all the tech mfg jam in there, that simply works with your phone. I also don't think offering power windows standard would really cost more than cranks these days and offering an upgrade kit for that is definitely costlier.
 

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