I think our expectations for Dekkers are testament to how good we actually had for it for a few years with Purdy at the helm.
It's the OL. If you can't run the ball, everything gets harder. KU was teeing off on Dekkers because they didn't have to worry about the run game. The question is why we have so much trouble putting together a decent OL. And why we have a bunch of WRs that can't get open.Our passing game needs a complete overhaul. That includes scheme, recruiting, and play design.
Our WR's don't separate when pressed, our o-line gets man handled and doesn't give our WR's time to run longer routes, and we have no play making ability at the TE spot.
Possibly true, but at a level that was good enough to land an NFL contract, which isn't too shabby. Dekkers has five starts under his belt, so to the topic of the thread, premature to say the least.
I'm listening to Marchie Murdock and other former players about how our passing game is hot garbage.
Currently using adjusted opponent defense, Iowa is actually ahead of us in yards per play. Is that good?
Also, currently we are almost dead last in power 5 offenses. I think we're 59 right now? I'll have to doublecheck.
I also think that our offense did well in past years because of our great players in spite of play calling and scheme.
This is what I was looking for when I posted the discussion. Thank you for giving a good faith take.My honest opinion is that I think people way overreact.
We lost Purdy and Breece, that was pretty much all of our production from last year. We replaced them with Dekkers and Brock, who are making their first college starts and barely played since High School. So yes there is going to be a huge drop off.
My only concerns with the offense are:
1. Not trying to establish the running game in a consistent manner
2. Slow developing running plays when we do decide to run the ball
3. Slow developing route trees that don't appear to compliment each other
My honest opinion is that I think people way overreact.
We lost Purdy and Breece, that was pretty much all of our production from last year. We replaced them with Dekkers and Brock, who are making their first college starts and barely played since High School. Then add in the TE's we graduated. So yes there is going to be a huge drop off.
My only concerns with the offense are:
1. Not trying to establish the running game in a consistent manner
2. Slow developing running plays when we do decide to run the ball
3. Slow developing route trees that don't appear to compliment each other
Fair however you are missing one elephant in the room which is he is QB2 due to injury to their planned QB1. Had he beat out Jimmy G - that would have been something. Or had they successfully traded Jimmy G etc. None that takes away the fact that he has done a great job and is and should be very impressed with what he is doing to land on an NFL roster.I don’t know man, he’s currently the QB2 for San Fransico. There were a lot of games last year he sure as hell didn’t look like an NFL QB2 and I don’t think some of that was on him.
Curious as to what Marchie has said on the subject......I'm listening to Marchie Murdock and other former players about how our passing game is hot garbage.
Currently using adjusted opponent defense, Iowa is actually ahead of us in yards per play. Is that good?
Also, currently we are almost dead last in power 5 offenses. I think we're 59 right now? I'll have to doublecheck.
I also think that our offense did well in past years because of our great players in spite of play calling and scheme.
That's not entirely accurate - our OL is competent not great. But watch our running plays. Our scheme i s brutal right now because we generally just run inside with lead zone or inside zone , occasionally a stretch. We don't do pin-pull concepts, traps, counters, etc.It's the OL. If you can't run the ball, everything gets harder. KU was teeing off on Dekkers because they didn't have to worry about the run game. The question is why we have so much trouble putting together a decent OL. And why we have a bunch of WRs that can't get open.
I don’t see it on their website yet, but here’s a recent one.Curious as to what Marchie has said on the subject......
Joel is the passing game coordinator in addition to QB coach. He likely has some say in the scheme.Fair however you are missing one elephant in the room which is he is QB2 due to injury to their planned QB1. Had he beat out Jimmy G - that would have been something. Or had they successfully traded Jimmy G etc. None that takes away the fact that he has done a great job and is and should be very impressed with what he is doing to land on an NFL roster.
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Now - back to the original thread - its hard to say. Because it all comes down to the scheme again. Which is out of a QB's coach hands unless he is the OC and to some degree, which varies staff to staff, its out of the OC's hands because the head coach obviously has final say.
In general I think we have an overall scheme issue more than a QB coach issue. Our scheme worked when we had 3 NFL tight ends, an NFL roster QB and essentially two starting NFL running backs.
Now - we have - IDK, potentially some NFL players but IDK how many and I don't know that as a staff we've done a good job adjusting the scheme. We adjusted personnel - we're now more 3 receiver sets and 1 TE / Hybrid in Rus most of the time but I don't know that we've adjusted scheme wise in the sense of route trees, blocking scheme or play calling.
I don't know if that is fair to put on the QB coach. Could he be better? Most likely yes. But overall, I think its more a schematic thing and a bit of a round peg - square hole at the moment more than one positional coach or even OC. I think we're trying to be something we're not cut out to be.
Depends on the staff but not 100%. That title can often times be ceremonial - like calling someone the associate head coach. That is something that varies staff to staff but generally it works like this.Joel is the passing game coordinator in addition to QB coach. He likely has some say in the scheme.
It certainly helps. I'd say one improvement that Dekkers could make would be to sense and more quickly vacate the pocket when its closing up on him. I know there's a value to not getting happy feet, but sometimes you can use your feet to buy time, or use them to make them pay for rushing hard.I'd say Purdy had a better line/RB when he was thrown in to the mix in 2018, and having a Butler to toss it up for sure creates a rosy picture.
It is time for CMC to look at making some coaching changes....OL, QB, OC, and ST.....start there.
Maybe, he needs some outside help, a successful former or even present coach....college or NFL either one....it's evident we've become predictable, one dimensional.
This offense will not get it done in this conference.