We Stink! But who exactly is "we"???

TNT

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How anyone can watch our defense get absolutely shredded and say we're one offensive player away from being decent is beyond me.

Did you watch the game?

If we don't throw an INT first play of the game (spot them an easy 7), then begin to NOT convert on 3rd downs.....UM, yeah, that helps the other score more points.....why do you think Kansas State stays in games with a 3rd/4th string QB?! Because, they don't turn it over like us, or they convert on 3rd downs, OR BOTH. Plain & Simple.

College football is a lot about momentum and when you give Tech that kind of field possession to start the game and give the ball away, then you put yourself at the bottom of the momentum meter.
 
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For example, take away Mahomes from Tech and I think the game is a lot closer...do we win, probably not, but it sure makes a BIG DIFFERENCE, no?
 

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My two cents on the state of things in Ames. Yesterday I said we stink, and I think most people agreed with that after watching the game. It was tough to take and embarrassing to say the least.
But who is to blame? Who actually stinks???

There is only one guilty party here and it is NOT the players. When I boo next week and do it loudly, it won't be directed at them.

I have a ton of respect for the players. Those guys put in a ton of work all year long and have to care about school at the same time. Sure some of them get scholarships, but for the most part, being a D1 football player is a grind. Especially on a bad team.

Those guys are trying their best, but they are outmatched right now and it shows.

ALL of the blame from me goes to the coaches. They are the ones who stink right now!

Yes, coaches are not on the field, players are, but holy crap they are bad right now.

Wally stinks.
Paul stinks.
And yes, JP stinks too for allowing this to get so bad and for extending CPR in the first place.

Sure, winning at ISU is tough, but at least be smart enough to come up with a way to be competitive. Getting massacred by Tech should not happen.
Having a 5th year QB not improving is just as much about bad coaching as it is a lack of skills.

These coaches get paid well. I would be embarrassed to cash my paycheck this week.
In fact, in the few real estate deals I have screwed up, I told the client to just keep their money. I didn't feel I earned it so I didn't want it.
Right now, the coaches aren't earning their dough. They stink.

Who else is at risk of stinking? Us, the fans. We will all STINK unless we demand better for the school that we love. This is garbage right now. Let JP and Leath know we expect better.
That starts with firing everyone and starting over.
JP stinks for extending Paul's contract, huh? He extended it when Paul had taken us to another bowl game, an uncommon occurrence for Iowa State. Paul was on other schools' short lists and Pollard had to act quickly to keep a coach who was successful and who was honored to be our coach. It was a gamble by Pollard, but a smart one given Iowa State's history. But folks like you, with perfect 20/20 hindsight, have courage to anonymously say he stinks for doing that.

Your post stinks.
 
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For example, take away Mahomes from Tech and I think the game is a lot closer...do we win, probably not, but it sure makes a BIG DIFFERENCE, no?

So then we aren't a quarterback away.
 

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For example, take away Mahomes from Tech and I think the game is a lot closer...do we win, probably not, but it sure makes a BIG DIFFERENCE, no?

I agree. If we took away there 2 star qb and played them 11 vs 10 and forced the center to snap to whoever could recover the fumble first we would stand a chance.
 

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I started a thread the other day about keeping the coaches, because of their recent success on the recruiting trail. I believe this team is a QB away from being a good team. I truly believe that. So much depends on the QB play, not only in college football, but the Big 12 even more.

Kansas State has found a way to keep their heads above water even without a standout at QB. They are more fundamentally sound, however. Tech had the better QB yesterday and it REALLY showed. SBR is really holding this team back (and I hate calling players out), but it is the reality of the situation. If the coaches keep him in the game I will probably fall on the side of the fence that says we need to let them go....because, it is too much of an obvious decision to make and keeps us from building on our recent success on the recruiting trail.

We need to see what we have in Lanning OR De Lira to start building for next year. This team has talent and for the coaches to not see next year as a 'turning point' would make me jump ship and become a fire Paul Rhoads groupy.

Players we have coming back (2016) that THIS STAFF SIGNED:

LB Jordan Harris
LB Willie Harvey
LB Reggan Northrup
CB Brian Peavy
RB Mike Warren
WR Jauan Wesley
WR Allen Lazard

LB Jay Jones
DT Demond Tucker
DT Bobby Leath
OT Jaypee Philbert
RB Josh Thomas
CB Jomal Wiltz
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WR Hakeem Butler - I'M REALLY HIGH ON
CB Stephon Brown - I'M REALLY HIGH ON

Recruiting is the most important thing coaches can do at this level....we have some momentum in this area and I know it isn't easy to see right now, but knowledgable fans know the type of players we have been able to get the last two years.

I will say it again, we are a QB away from being a solid team. It jut sucks that the QB is the most important position on the field, because that is the position we lack the most. IF Rhoads wants to save his own job...he better put in Lanning.

So in 2020, our recruits will be ready to perform. Time for a coaching extension by then.
 

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Did you watch the game?

If we don't throw an INT first play of the game (spot them an easy 7), then begin to NOT convert on 3rd downs.....UM, yeah, that helps the other score more points.....why do you think Kansas State stays in games with a 3rd/4th string QB?! Because, they don't turn it over like us, or they convert on 3rd downs, OR BOTH. Plain & Simple.

College football is a lot about momentum and when you give Tech that kind of field possession to start the game and give the ball away, then you put yourself at the bottom of the momentum meter.

The 8 guys we had in coverage consistently gave up monster plays to Tech's receivers. How you watched the game and missed that is amazing.
 

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I agree. If we took away there 2 star qb and played them 11 vs 10 and forced the center to snap to whoever could recover the fumble first we would stand a chance.

We need to pay the refs mo' money to fix it. The refs can pass on anything if they want. 35 holds, out of bounds, fumbles, you name it, they can fix it.
 

Wesley

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The 8 guys we had in coverage consistently gave up monster plays to Tech's receivers. How you watched the game and missed that is amazing.
Looked like they never thought the ball was coming their way. Never saw so many defenders chasing receivers. Never knew you stood 15 yards back and never moved on the play. Never saw so many blown ref calls. Never knew having great receivers could amount to a hell of beans.
 

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Did you watch the game?

If we don't throw an INT first play of the game (spot them an easy 7), then begin to NOT convert on 3rd downs.....UM, yeah, that helps the other score more points.....why do you think Kansas State stays in games with a 3rd/4th string QB?! Because, they don't turn it over like us, or they convert on 3rd downs, OR BOTH. Plain & Simple.

College football is a lot about momentum and when you give Tech that kind of field possession to start the game and give the ball away, then you put yourself at the bottom of the momentum meter.
We gave up 750ish yards, come on bro. Don't act dense.
 

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scyclonekid

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Saying we r a QB away from success obviously is not watching the rest of this **** show. We ******* suck and knew it would be a blow out cause of our defense, the three man rush is a joke.
 

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What really stinks in this thread is the fact that since OP isn't anonymous (unlike 99% of us on here) that some posters think its acceptable to use personal attacks on him due to their disagreement with his sentiments and his lack of anonymity. Just because he's a known poster around here doesn't make it cool or acceptable to attack him personally...as i'm certain you don't know the dude personally.
 

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What really stinks in this thread is the fact that since OP isn't anonymous (unlike 99% of us on here) that some posters think its acceptable to use personal attacks on him due to their disagreement with his sentiments and his lack of anonymity. Just because he's a known poster around here doesn't make it cool or acceptable to attack him personally...as i'm certain you don't know the dude personally.

He's a good guy.