we have two point guards who can dunk but refuse to do it

oldman

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Their hands are smaller than the big guys, so there is a greater chance they will lose control of the ball. Besides, a lay-up is actually a higher percentage shot.
 

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DGs dunk was little? are you serious. That was right in front of us and he thre it down hard. Just because the kid weighs next to nothing and the rim doesnt rock doesnt mean he didnt throw it down hard.
 

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why do i have flash back of the movie White Men Can't Jump?

This is all you need to know about white men not being able to dunk...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbLIw4DBzHo"]YouTube - american history x (basketball match[/ame]

(Sidenote: Norton's dunk is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. I highly doubt he can grab the net, let alone throw it down like that.)
 
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I think every player on our team should try to dunk it, with authority, every chance they get, not just in breakaways. Dunking gets the crowd involved and excited when we're at home and gets the rest of the team pumped up whether we're home or on the road. This, I think, is why all our players, not just point guards, should try to dunk it more.

I love how Gilstrap goes to the hoop with the intent to absolutely murder-dunk on anyone who gets in his way. I think Brackins should do more of this.

GO CYCLONES!!!
 

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I don't know, if the points aren't critical to the outcome of the game, biffing a dunk can be pretty fun to watch.

Those guys are doing it wrong. Here's the correct way to do it:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8WWcE_rZIg]YouTube - Craig Brackins Dunk vs. Mississippi Valley State[/ame]
 

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This got me thinking...Kantrail Horton missed a dunk back when he was playing here, and I'm pretty sure it was the '00-'01 season. I want to say it was against Kansas, but I can't remember for certain. I believe he was on a break away all by himself and tried to do it left handed and just got stuffed by the front of the rim. He may have also picked the ball up after that and layed it in since nobody was around him.

Anybody remember this?


I remember this. It was the basket in front of the Kansas bench. It was a wide open break, I mean no one even at half court. He missed the left handed dunk. I'm not sure if he got the rebound or not, but from what I remember he was all alone so he should have put it back in.
 

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Colvin actually tried to line up one earlier in the game too. He was fouled though before liftoff. You can see he has to get a good start and likes to come in at an angle to get up. That opportunity doesnt present itself too often. Besides he does a better job of setting the others guys up for their open dunks (Brackins, Gilstrap & Dendy.)
 

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I think every player on our team should try to dunk it, with authority, every chance they get, not just in breakaways. Dunking gets the crowd involved and excited when we're at home and gets the rest of the team pumped up whether we're home or on the road. This, I think, is why all our players, not just point guards, should try to dunk it more.

I love how Gilstrap goes to the hoop with the intent to absolutely murder-dunk on anyone who gets in his way. I think Brackins should do more of this.

GO CYCLONES!!!
I seriously don't think some of you realize how difficult dunking can be with people in the way, not to mention trying to dunk over someone vs. laying it up around them is dangerous if you slip off the rim. If dunking was easy, everyone would do it all the time. It's not, and it's not easy to do with people around if you don't absorb contact well.
Their hands are smaller than the big guys, so there is a greater chance they will lose control of the ball. Besides, a lay-up is actually a higher percentage shot.
I highly, highly doubt this. How many dunks do you see doinked off the rim vs. the number of layups that are missed or rejected? It's very, very difficult to block a dunk without getting called for a foul. Blocking a layup off the board is much easier to do and not get called for a foul.
 

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I really don't see all these opportunities for DG and CC to be throwing down dunks all over the place. Yeah they can do it if they are on the break and uncontested, can't do that in traffic though.
 

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I seriously don't think some of you realize how difficult dunking can be with people in the way, not to mention trying to dunk over someone vs. laying it up around them is dangerous if you slip off the rim. If dunking was easy, everyone would do it all the time. It's not, and it's not easy to do with people around if you don't absorb contact well.


I don't think dunking is easy, but point guard or center, if you have the capabilities to dunk, to quote Bill Walton, "throw it DOWN, Big Man!!!!"

Having never dunked except in my driveway on the adjustable hoop when I was a kid, dunking also seems to be kind of a mindset. I want our players and coaches to have the dunking mindset.

GO CYCLONES!!!
 

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I seriously don't think some of you realize how difficult dunking can be with people in the way, not to mention trying to dunk over someone vs. laying it up around them is dangerous if you slip off the rim. If dunking was easy, everyone would do it all the time. It's not, and it's not easy to do with people around if you don't absorb contact well.


I don't think dunking is easy, but point guard or center, if you have the capabilities to dunk, to quote Bill Walton, "throw it DOWN, Big Man!!!!"

Having never dunked except in my driveway on the adjustable hoop when I was a kid, dunking also seems to be kind of a mindset. I want our players and coaches to have the dunking mindset.

GO CYCLONES!!!

This. LE preached to our big men to throw it down if they had the chance. Better percentage of making it, and more likely to be fouled going to the rim.
 

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I don't think dunking is easy, but point guard or center, if you have the capabilities to dunk, to quote Bill Walton, "throw it DOWN, Big Man!!!!"

Having never dunked except in my driveway on the adjustable hoop when I was a kid, dunking also seems to be kind of a mindset. I want our players and coaches to have the dunking mindset.

GO CYCLONES!!!
It's a mindset, but also requires you to have a huge burst of energy in most cases. Smaller players, especially like Colvin, have very little room for error on dunks, and the slightest contact can knock them off the path and missing the dunk, whereas a layup leaves your arm with the ball free to move in a direction without your body following. DG gets bumped going up for a dunk, good chance he doinks it off the rim because he can't go through people. At the same time on the layup, he can still kiss it off the glass because his body might stop, but his arm can take him closer to the bucket.

I can dunk it, but definitely understand the advantages of laying it in sometimes. It's much easier to feel in control of the ball with your hand under the ball than palming it from above.
 

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I seriously don't think some of you realize how difficult dunking can be with people in the way, not to mention trying to dunk over someone vs. laying it up around them is dangerous if you slip off the rim. If dunking was easy, everyone would do it all the time. It's not, and it's not easy to do with people around if you don't absorb contact well.

I highly, highly doubt this. How many dunks do you see doinked off the rim vs. the number of layups that are missed or rejected? It's very, very difficult to block a dunk without getting called for a foul. Blocking a layup off the board is much easier to do and not get called for a foul.
I was talking about the shot itself I guess, not really considering all game situations. I know its a much higher percentage shot for me.
 

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I think the percentage of attempted dunks that are missed because a shorter or skinnier player wasn't able to finish the dunk is marginal. If the shorter or skinnier player does miss the dunk there was probably some sort of contact with an opposing player. Odds are there will be a foul called with free throws coming. The odds are certainly higher of making a contested layup than making a contested dunk, but I'll take the lower percentage dunk attempt with the likelihood of a foul and the huge upside of jacking the player, entire team, and home crowd up.

GO CYCLONES!!!
 
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I remember watching HS videos of both. Garrett seemed to finish then like he does now. Pretty soft, and makes about half. Colvin really went to the hole with authority. I think it's mainly about confidence, strength, and balance, when it comes to finishing.

But, frankly, it's just dangerous to try to dunk, at their size, when they get to the rim. Too many big bodies around, and when you hang on/release from the rim. A number of things can happen. It's much easier to control your body when going for the lay-up. I think as Colvin gets bigger and stronger, he'll be a great finisher in time. But, he clearly has the ups to throw them down, and I'm sure we'll see plenty of that as he matures...
 

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I loved Colvins dunk tonight it was sweet, and i thought Diante had a nice little dunk i mean nothing like brackins or gilstrap, but Colvins was sick, Why dont they ever dunk in games when they can clearly throw down?

wtf?
 

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Im sorry i guess im not allowed to be excited about our point guards dunking the ball