Vehicle reliability - best make/models?

kirk89gt

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Maybe your issue is like mine in that what you're still calling 20-30 years ago that which is now 35-45. :D

200k lifecycles have been the norm for a long time. My 87 Sentra made 200k and I spent very little on repairs over the last 100k. Rust was it's demise. Had a 95 Civic that was still running good at 285k, and my old FIL had an 87 Buick Century (used on a gravel road mail route) that made it to 300k. Most of those old Lesabres with the 3.8s were all good for 200k+.

Now with that being said, there were some short cycle cars as well. Head gaskets failing took out a bunch of cars...including ford escorts as well as a plethora of Subarus. Transmissions in Chryslers were terrible.

My dad would run Dodge minivans ( not because he liked them, but because he could get them used on the cheap and run them up to around 300k - while getting paid mileage, which he would generally come out ahead over the long term).

Speaking to their reliability, he had an early 2000’s Caravan (model was notorious for tranny issues) and he was traveling the less populated upper Midwest when he broke down on the side of the road (knew it was the tranny based on the symptoms it was giving him and the fact that it was approaching its 70k mile life expectancy). Got a tow onto the nearest town with a dealer. The dealer had a tranny in stock, on the shelf, ready to go, and he was back on the road in a few hours. Figure the odds, middle of nowhere, and the dealer has it in inventory. Like they knew that the likelihood of someone needing one was high. Hmmmmm….:rolleyes:
 

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My dad would run Dodge minivans ( not because he liked them, but because he could get them used on the cheap and run them up to around 300k - while getting paid mileage, which he would generally come out ahead over the long term).

Speaking to their reliability, he had an early 2000’s Caravan (model was notorious for tranny issues) and he was traveling the less populated upper Midwest when he broke down on the side of the road (knew it was the tranny based on the symptoms it was giving him and the fact that it was approaching its 70k mile life expectancy). Got a tow onto the nearest town with a dealer. The dealer had a tranny in stock, on the shelf, ready to go, and he was back on the road in a few hours. Figure the odds, middle of nowhere, and the dealer has it in inventory. Like they knew that the likelihood of someone needing one was high. Hmmmmm….:rolleyes:

They only stock what they know they're going to sell! LOL
 
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Please post pictures. My parents had a 1976 LTD, which became my car, and to this day it was my favorite vehicle. I drove that until 1995 when it finally died. Easily had over 200,000 miles on it. My god the babies that could have been made in that back seat, but alas my wife will never know!
I don’t own one anymore but when I see them I respect them.
 

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Just got a Mazda CX-5 and absolutely love it. Have had a Mazda the past few cars I've had and it will be hard to veer from them.
 
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Thoughts on 08 Taurus?

I think they're ok, but I still remember getting stung on one several years ago. The module in the valvebody of the transmission failed at 45k. Ford wouldn't stand behind it because it was deemed non-powertrain...despite the fact that it was an internal part of the transmission and that you couldn't buy the module without buying the valve body. (which was a covered part)

Used transmissions are pretty reasonable, and used engines aren't terribly priced either. On older vehicles, that's a pretty good indicator of a vehicle's long term reliability.
 
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Please post pictures. My parents had a 1976 LTD, which became my car, and to this day it was my favorite vehicle. I drove that until 1995 when it finally died. Easily had over 200,000 miles on it. My god the babies that could have been made in that back seat, but alas my wife will never know!

I know right? I had the double barrel 460 in mine and that thing could move. But quiet and steady at any speed. Just a land yacht of epic proportions. I think it got 8 mpg if you drove it careful, which I never did. Good thing gas only cost $.89 when I first took the wheel of that thing.
 
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this thread is like a time machine...sentras, civics, taurus', caravans. you guys are diehards.
 
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Just read an article that a dealership is selling a pre-owned 2019 Toyota Tacoma SR double cab for $4,000 more ($33k) than it cost new just a few years ago ($29k).
 
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Just read an article that a dealership is selling a pre-owned 2019 Toyota Tacoma SR double cab for $4,000 more ($33k) than it cost new just a few years ago ($29k).

That's nutty. Seems like everything is super expensive right now.

I just looked and an almost identical jeep to mine ('14 Wrangler 4 dr) with about 15k more miles is selling for only 3k less than what I paid for it back in 2013.
 

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Bump. Would love some thoughts on this car if anyone has owned one or knows a lot of about them.

The 3.6L of that year is a PITA, primarily for having an under-engineered exceptionally long timing chain that's prone to stretching, causing drivability issues.

The good news is that as a vehicle that's rear wheel drive, the front of the engine faces forward rather than towards the right side of the car. Why does this matter? Well, because it means having the room to get in to do the work. In the Traverse/Acadia which is transverse mounted, there is no room to work and you have to drop the entire subframe from the vehicle to be able to access the chain. Having to drop the subframe adds significantly to the cost.

I think they improved the design in 2012, so if your heart is set on one, opt for a 12-13 or find one that's somewhat recently been replaced. The other most common thing I see on those is the crappy quick connect fittings for the transmission lines to the radiator are prone to leaking. Not terribly expensive though.
 
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The 3.6L of that year is a PITA, primarily for having an under-engineered exceptionally long timing chain that's prone to stretching, causing drivability issues.

The good news is that as a vehicle that's rear wheel drive, the front of the engine faces forward rather than towards the right side of the car. Why does this matter? Well, because it means having the room to get in to do the work. In the Traverse/Acadia which is transverse mounted, there is no room to work and you have to drop the entire subframe from the vehicle to be able to access the chain. Having to drop the subframe adds significantly to the cost.

I think they improved the design in 2012, so if your heart is set on one, opt for a 12-13 or find one that's somewhat recently been replaced. The other most common thing I see on those is the crappy quick connect fittings for the transmission lines to the radiator are prone to leaking. Not terribly expensive though.

Used car guy what’s your thoughts on Chevy sparks? Asking for a friend lol
 
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I read something online that said only 1% of cars make it to 200,000 miles which seems crazy to me. My Camry is just below that and going strong.
 

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I read something online that said only 1% of cars make it to 200,000 miles which seems crazy to me. My Camry is just below that and going strong.

My 2011 Honda Pilot was at 200k when I traded it in a few years ago. Only issue I had with it was replacing the alternator. Great car.
 

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My 2011 Honda Pilot was at 200k when I traded it in a few years ago. Only issue I had with it was replacing the alternator. Great car.
Honda and Toyota have had reliability figured out for decades. Crazy the American auto-makers still haven't figured it out.