VEGAS: Iowa favored by 2 for 2017 Cy-Hawk game

TheJackWePack5

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I live across the street from Nick's parents in Newton. His older brother is a kicker at UNI. Really nice family, his dad is an Iowa grad and huge Hawkeye fan, he was worried that he was going to have to buy come Cyclone gear before Nick was offered an opportunity at Iowa. :)
It was quite strange, I remember seeing on Twitter he posted a commitment to ISU, then just shortly afterward he posted one to Iowa. Haha.

His film reminds me a lot of Justin Coleman that played for ISU a few years back.
 

CTTB78

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With all the hok fans thinking covering 2 points should be easy money, has the early line moved up yet?
 

YeahBuddy

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With all the hok fans thinking covering 2 points should be easy money, has the early line moved up yet?

I was kind of thinking the opposite with all the Clone fans thinking they beat Iowa this year.

Expecting this game to move to a pick 'em soon if it hasn't already.
 
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VeloClone

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Yeah but Wadley's better than any RB ISU has had since Troy Davis.
Could be, but I don't think his junior year was any better than Ennis Haywood's. He had better YPC but Ennis was asked to carry the load game in and game out and he led the league in rushing yards both that junior year and again his senior year. Ennis averaged over 120 yards per game that year. I'm not saying he was better, but I am saying it is too close to say that Wadley is hands down better.
 

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Could be, but I don't think his junior year was any better than Ennis Haywood's. He had better YPC but Ennis was asked to carry the load game in and game out and he led the league in rushing yards both that junior year and again his senior year. Ennis averaged over 120 yards per game that year. I'm not saying he was better, but I am saying it is too close to say that Wadley is hands down better.
Agreed. I think my favorite part about CMC is that he seems dedicated to improving ISU's O-line play. In my mind that is the position group that has struggled the most since DMac was fired. (Disclaimer I root for ISU when not playing Iowa.) <Which is apparently is an attribute worthy of death to some of my friends.
 
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Let's pretend that Campbell completely changed the playbook. Like, nothing was similar at all. Lanning would have had access, within a couple weeks, to the playbook, coaching ,etc from when this staff was hired on Nov 29th, 2015. Park didn't get to ISU until June of last year, nearly 7 months after Campbell took the job. See where I'm going?


I'm sure the playbook for Parks rec league was just as complicated as CMC's.
 
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I think you're getting a bit carried away. Solid RB? Sure. He'd have been #3 on Iowa's depth chart last year, at best.

I actually think that a healthy Warren could have started for you guys last year. He's a guy who can hit a hole and house it. He actually would be really, really good at the stretch zone. Problem for ISU last year was that he wasn't healthy and there were no holes. Montgomery was much better at making his own hole and grinding out yards. 1200 yards as a RSFR is not chump change.
 
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I actually think that a healthy Warren could have started for you guys last year. He's a guy who can hit a hole and house it. He actually would be really, really good at the stretch zone. Problem for ISU last year was that he wasn't healthy and there were no holes. Montgomery was much better at making his own hole and grinding out yards. 1200 yards as a RSFR is not chump change.

If Daniels and Wadley were out I think Warren could have started.
 

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Doubling down on the Warren > Wadley BS?

You already admitted you were wrong on that months ago.

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Warren couldn't gain 30 yards against Iowa. Michigan's D would've treated him like Sonny Corleone sidewalk stomping brother-in-law Carlo. Wadley torched Michigan's D when they were jamming the box. Not even close. But he's a nice RB for you guys.
 

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So Kirk starts worse players just because they are older? And you wonder why us ISU fans like him so much! It's just like Fran playing 11+ guys!

He didn't start a worse player because he was older he started a player with comparable production who was a senior.

But facts that don't fit your selective reality often must be ignored.
 

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Warren couldn't gain 30 yards against Iowa. Michigan's D would've treated him like Sonny Corleone sidewalk stomping brother-in-law Carlo. Wadley torched Michigan's D when they were jamming the box. Not even close. But he's a nice RB for you guys.
Kind of comparing apples to oranges when talking about running behind the ISU OL as opposed to the Iowa OL.

So this "debate" is literally an impossible one.
 
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CyTwins

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He didn't start a worse player because he was older he started a player with comparable production who was a senior.

But facts that don't fit your selective reality often must be ignored.

So Daniels wasn't better than Wadley. That's all you had to say.
 

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