Update on a vaccine
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Lol, no. That's quite the stretch in logic. Perhaps they're also convincing the US government to add Florine for the same reason.
As much as I find @ArgentCy something between a lovable crank and an annoying conspiracy theorist (with the occasionally bright insights), I think he might be astute on this one. People are plenty capable of being stupid without Chinese or Russian money behind it. How do I know that? I have met some people. ******* idiots.
Because a toy and a human are kinda a LOOOOOTTT different. How do you fast track long term health studies? At best they can see if anyone has serious side effects immediately or soon after the injection. But it's impossible to know any long-term effects. And virtually impossible to study potential interactions with outside variables.
I'm currently on fenofibrate so I hope this is true. All those cheeseburgers may have indirectly saved my fat ass.
I think most schools ask for vaccination records. We had to provide them for my daughter last year.
Our collective violence comes from the same source as our work ethic and creativity? Color me skeptical, but nice essay. B-
They do. In order to make sure they comply with state requirements. Currently the state does not require influenza vaccination. If they want to require COVID for school then they would have to pass something stating as such.
Sometimes the same personality traits can manifest themselves in both negative and positive directions. There is a lot of wolf in your average dog.
Things that make a good cop or soldier also make a pretty good criminal -- capacity for violence, openness to risk, physical courage, aggression, and the ability to read situations to manage and channel the violent impulses of others around them.
It is not that hard to see that the same things that make us creative and innovative, like a propensity to challenge authority and the status quo, are precisely the same things that lead to so many negative outcomes at the same time. Raise a naturally gifted child in that environment and that cultural milieu from birth, and they become an entrepreneur or an astronaut willing to die to go to the Moon. Raise a naturally malcontent child in that environment, and they end up part of the opioids statistics.
Take those same two children over to Denmark, and the former ends up as a modestly successful civil servant and the latter ends up at a menial but steady and remunerative job (and both of them enjoy American pop music and iPhones). They both have good lives, but neither of them is pushing the envelope of what our species can do.
You can win harder in America, but you can lose harder, too.
A treatment that would reduce mortality by 90% or so would be a game changer. We'd basically be done talking about this. Fingers crossed.
Calc, Trig, Chem, all the hardest subjects for me, but they all pale in comparison to Philosophy courses I took. Total *********.
What I'm reading here is if you get COVID it will make you fat.
I must have COVID
I read someplace that the US is going to buy 100s of millions of doses of several of the promising vaccines before trials are completed. They will be ready to go when/if they are approved.
By testing them on mice who experience a full life cycle in 12-18 months . That's honestly how it's done, and the only solution unless you want to wait 50-60 years every time a new drug or vaccine is created. Even monkeys age too slowly to be an efficient model. Obviously they sometimes find long term effects that did not show up in mice since they aren't an exact model of humans.
If you really want to go down a rabbitt hole on the merits of testing long-term effects on mice, listen to the Bret Weinstein interview on his brother, Eric Weinstein's podcast, The Portal.
You missed the point. He is stating that the part that everyone is worried about, the testing, doesn't have to be impacted by fast-tracking to still achieve significant reductions in overall flowtime. Studies and trials can even be fast-tracked by running some in parallel instead of series without cutting corners. It increases the risk that the investment in testing is wasted, but I don't think the cost is an issue right now.
As for long term effects, some won't be known for years regardless if it is fast-tracked or if it follows a standard flow. All things in life have risks, I'll take the risk that there might be a long term effect not detected in the testing over the certainty of the near and long term effects of Covid.
Well, we'll never know until it's far too late. Because they don't bother with any long-term effects of vaccines. The safety studies are very tightly controlled because they want a certain outcome. And they have a universal exemption from any potential harm, so why would they bother?
Yeah, I am Type 2, but I won't be rushing to get the shot. There are so many possible negative reactions. What if 1% of the people that get it die, or are disabled? That is worse than the virus, as far as I can tell. The Covid data is not very trustworthy.
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