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Totally agree. I honestly don’t know who they can get though. I personally don’t see DeVries as an option. If Fran lasted two more years I would bet my house DeVries would be next coach. Not after one year though. Could be wrong.
That is what I am saying, by waiting one season or even two, it makes both DeVries and the Drake coach easier to walk away from their current jobs, while at the same time, seeing if they are the real deal. Waiting also lowers the buyout and what its going to cost EIU to buyout DeVries if he is the guy.
 
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That is what I am saying, by waiting one season or even two, it makes both DeVries and the Drake coach easier to walk away from their current jobs, while at the same time, seeing if they are the real deal. Waiting also lowers the buyout and what its going to cost EIU to buyout DeVries if he is the guy.
Right but as we are seeing Iowa is basically at rock bottom and if they keep Fran who is gonna wanna come in to clean the mess? Maybe DeVries but oof. He might have WVU rolling by then.
 

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Right but as we are seeing Iowa is basically at rock bottom and if they keep Fran who is gonna wanna come in to clean the mess? Maybe DeVries but oof. He might have WVU rolling by then.
True, but like any AD, I am sure the EIU AD is already gauging interest, talking to the agents of both DeVries and the Drake coach to see if they would be interested in the job and how much. The salary for DeVries would not be much of an increase, but the Drake coach would be double or triple what he is now making. If I was her, I would let the year play out, see how Fran is going to fix the problem and tell him that next year improvement must be made or the university will be looking to go a different direction.
 

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Check out who McCollum is offering and connected to. Guy hasn't changed his recruiting from NWMSU at all and the kids he's looking at won't be 24 and lived in his system like Stirtz and that group. Taking the Drake job and pulling his important pieces with him was his ploy to get to the power leagues quick and some AD is going to fall for it.

Plus, that fan base isn't going to put up with that style after Lick. Slowest tempo in the country by over a possession.

Wardle is an abusive ******* so that's not going to fly with Beth either.
 
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Check out who McCollum is offering and connected to. Guy hasn't changed his recruiting from NWMSU at all and the kids he's looking at won't be 24 and lived in his system like Stirtz and that group. Taking the Drake job and pulling his important pieces with him was his ploy to get to the power leagues quick and some AD is going to fall for it.

Plus, that fan base isn't going to put up with that style after Lick. Slowest tempo in the country by over a possession.

Wardle is an abusive ******* so that's not going to fly with Beth either.
Lick lost a lot of games. You can play slow if you win. Fran plays fast and here we're. Mccollum won a lot over a long period. Been some really good coaches to come from that level. He certainly would come with some risks as likely any coach iowa hires will but I'm not sure mccollum won't be a good hire for someone
 

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True, but like any AD, I am sure the EIU AD is already gauging interest, talking to the agents of both DeVries and the Drake coach to see if they would be interested in the job and how much. The salary for DeVries would not be much of an increase, but the Drake coach would be double or triple what he is now making. If I was her, I would let the year play out, see how Fran is going to fix the problem and tell him that next year improvement must be made or the university will be looking to go a different direction.
Fran is not going to fix the problem. He is the problem.

Iowa needs to build up fan interest and some buzz. Right now they have neither, no one cares. If I was her, I would look for either a big name to make a big splash, or else a tireless enthusiastic younger guy from nowhere. My ISU comps would be Johnny Orr for the former and Danny Mac for the latter. IDK if she could afford any big name, even if one had interest in doing a turnaround from where they are at now. Really think they need to find a high energy young guy somewhere in the midwest.
 

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True, but like any AD, I am sure the EIU AD is already gauging interest, talking to the agents of both DeVries and the Drake coach to see if they would be interested in the job and how much. The salary for DeVries would not be much of an increase, but the Drake coach would be double or triple what he is now making. If I was her, I would let the year play out, see how Fran is going to fix the problem and tell him that next year improvement must be made or the university will be looking to go a different direction.
I hope you’re right. Another year of that over there would dig them further. But I think personally it’s been apparent all season he’s checked out. I’ll be shocked if he’s the coach next year. He won’t be fired but he won’t be there.
 

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Honestly I have really liked Anthony Grant for a long time. That Covid year they was null really ****** that team over. They were so good and I think Grant would have had some big offers. That’s the kind of coach Iowa could actually get I think.
Could be good hire. His teams always look the part. Would definitely bring in better talent
 
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I've seen this take hundreds of times, and it's stupid every time. I've been a Cyclone fan since 1980, but didn't attend ISU. Have I been a fake fan for 45 *ucking years?

My generation of Iowans migrated towards Iowa because they became successful while ISU was a dumpster fire. The butthurtedness is getting really old.

Odd post if you’re a Cyclone fan of any form

Take it from another “Tavern Clone”, you need to have thicker skin and get behind the good fight against Hawk fans of all colors, including the Purple ones. Which is the majority of all UNI dual fans
As a proud Tavern Clone myself, I question your fandom
 
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The next coach is going to have to talk about NIL distribution though because right now Iowa MBB is not good.
 

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Yeah but there have been a lot of skinny basketball players that have killed it. Skinny does not mean they are not strong. Will Clyburn was skinny as hell but he was strong also.

Clyburn had 25 lbs on this guy coming out of HS... I agree, he was skinny, this dude is next level lol...
 

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I sincerely doubt at least with past Administration but maybe new AD is more of risk taker. He's likely to go to sec school I'd think but I also can't see a lot of sec jobs being open when I look at conference.
Yeah he's really never left the south either. I'm not sure there'd be interest either way. Would he want to coach in Iowa and would he bolt for the first opportunity back in the SEC or even ACC?
 

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Regardless of how bad it is …or gets. With the portal, today it is much less of a rebuild. Bring a couple with you, bring in 3 or 4 difference makers and wham a good coach can completely remake a team and win in the first year….(see Devires this year).
All you have to do is review what he did against ISU last Saturday.
Watch Devires actions on the bench…..he put his whole season on the line for this game. Pretty sure his idea to have the Jerry west program for our game, he wanted all the juice on his side. Why ??? Because he is a tavern hawk of the worst kind…. Didn’t attend EIU, and with a brother playing for old raisin face himself… you know he grew up hating ISU.
And, with that win he became the instant hero among all the Sukeye ass kissin media in the state, he has been the talk of all sports talk in the state all week.
 

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I honestly don't know why any decent coach would want the Iowa job when they finally move on from Fran. Travis was lobbying hard this morning for DeVries on the Morning Rush today but is Iowa really a desirable job right now over what he has at WVU? They pack the place there and spend NIL money and I don't care that he is is from Iowa, even if they offered more money why would you take on that mess over what you already have going at WVU? Iowa will either have to throw an insane amount of money at a big name coach or hope they find a diamond in the rough mid major coach with their next hire because the apathy has set in so bad in Iowa City that it's not an easy job to sell right now.
Some mid-major coach that wants to move up would take it. A 1/2 decent coach can flirt with the Tourney from the B1G - after the top 2-3, they are all woof.

So likely scenarios:

1) They get a decent mid-major, makes the tourney for a year or 2 and then goes to a better job.
2) They get licklitered again. I am getting all tingly just thinking about it.

I don't think that program can support a top tier team.
 

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Yeah he's really never left the south either. I'm not sure there'd be interest either way. Would he want to coach in Iowa and would he bolt for the first opportunity back in the SEC or even ACC?
Personally I never care too much about the aspect of who may leave in future. Typically that means they've done a good job and now you're in a better place. He might leave you're right.

I was looking at SEC and idk I don't really see many if any job openings. They're all playing relatively good or new hires. What do you think?
 
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Personally I never care too much about the aspect of who may leave in future. Typically that means they've done a good job and now you're in a better place. He might leave you're right.

I was looking at SEC and idk I don't really see many if any job openings. They're all playing relatively good or new hires. What do you think?
You're not wrong on the SEC. I would say maybe look at the ACC though. He's a Clemson grad. That conference is pure garbage.
 
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He's owed 60% of his remaining salary.

He has 3.5, 3.6, and 3.7 remaining. So he would be owed 6.48M. Plus the assistant buyouts, plus Devries Buyout. Iowa doesn't have THAT kind of money for basketball.
Good. I hope Fran stays @ Iowa for the rest of my life. Those two are a perfect couple. I’m really looking forward to his next **** fit.
 
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