The Fran Fade has started

Drew0311

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I mean it's pretty low on the list of concerns, sure, but I can't imagine a guy weighing 165 (at 6'6!) being able to withstand the physicality of the Big 12.


Yeah but there have been a lot of skinny basketball players that have killed it. Skinny does not mean they are not strong. Will Clyburn was skinny as hell but he was strong also.
 

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Demarion wasn’t too far off from that in HS and now he’s built like a rock. Our S&C is light years ahead of Iowa but still.
Iowa's S&C program is a two-track system:
1. Stickboy (generic tattoo requirement)
2. Doughboy (includes access to Brain Ferentz Memorial Cafeteria)
 
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Yeah, I think that people here underestimate B10 money. We were able to buy out Prohm and TJ's contract at UNLV during Covid. And people think that iowa can't afford to buy out Fran and DeVries? With the new TV deal and getting a bigger share for the CFP, the iowa AD is probably getting $40M more than ISU each year. And they can't afford a buyout in their second biggest sport (revenue wise)? I feel like at this point, they can't afford not to. Fran looks like he wants out, I'm sure he will negotiate a reduced buyout...something like 75%. DeVries is an iowa fan. He'll jump at that job. How he does at iowa is another issue. He has a built in recruiting base of legacies and brainwashed locals, but does that really fit what he wants to do? I feel like a bunch of white kids that can shoot but not defend is not really what he's looking for.
The money is nice, but I also believe that many B10 and SEC fans think that with this money, every coach in the US will be dying to get into those conferences and leave their old job. Which I do not think is going to be true. As long as ISU and the rest of the B12 and ACC can be competitive in what they can spend on athletics, then there is not going to be a mad rush from coaches to get into those leagues. EIU and other B10 programs are also supporting a lot more teams than most of the B12, so while they have more money, its being drained off supporting women's rowing and wrestling and other sports. Pollard has done a great job of running our programs, and I trust that it will continue going forward.

EIU is stuck with Fran as long as he wants to be there over the life the contract, it runs three more seasons after this one, the guy is still out their recruiting for next season, and has not made any references to stepping down or going somewhere else. Their athletic program owes a lot of money, and while the new TV money does kick in this year, its going to take a few years for them to start making a dent in what they already owe, adding another $10 to $12 million on top of that debt by firing Mad Fran really does not make sense. Their AD will let it ride of another year, and decide then, what she plans to do, gets them one year less of a buyout, and gives their all time winning coach a year to change the direction of the program, in my opinion.
 

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I've seen this take hundreds of times, and it's stupid every time. I've been a Cyclone fan since 1980, but didn't attend ISU. Have I been a fake fan for 45 *ucking years?

My generation of Iowans migrated towards Iowa because they became successful while ISU was a dumpster fire. The butthurtedness is getting really old.

For someone as old as you are, your response is very childish. Grow up.

If you can point to one thing I wrote that was incorrect, I’ll gladly recant my previous statement.
 
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I've seen this take hundreds of times, and it's stupid every time. I've been a Cyclone fan since 1980, but didn't attend ISU. Have I been a fake fan for 45 *ucking years?

My generation of Iowans migrated towards Iowa because they became successful while ISU was a dumpster fire. The butthurtedness is getting really old.
So are you. ;)
 

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For someone as old as you are, your response is very childish. Grow up.

If you can point to one thing I wrote that was incorrect, I’ll gladly recant my previous statement.
He is correct that many fans of that generation, late 70's early 80's became EIU fans and not ISU fans, its why some call it the lost generation of fans for ISU. I was in HS during that time, and there were very few fans that supported ISU at that time, most that did, went to school at ISU, otherwise they did not care or became fans of EIU, when they started winning in both football and basketball.
 

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For someone as old as you are, your response is very childish. Grow up.

If you can point to one thing I wrote that was incorrect, I’ll gladly recant my previous statement.
Don't give me that crap. You know damn well what you were insinuating.

Show me your data that proves EIU has more non-attendee fans than those that went there. All you're doing is spouting old, tired little brother rhetoric.

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Can we loan them a couple transfers to help out? I think we’ve got guys that aren’t getting minutes here that would battle for starting spots in IC. Or would we be worried that Fran would be able to ruin them forever in a two month span?
Iowa State guys would get thrown out of practice for playing defense. :jimlad:
 
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Iowa State guys would get thrown out of practice for playing defense. :jimlad:

How dare you impede the offense! You win the game by scoring more points than your opponent. You don’t score points on defense. So, offense is the only way to win a game.
 

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Don't give me that crap. You know damn well what you were insinuating.

Show me your data that proves EIU has more non-attendee fans than those that went there. All you're doing is spouting old, tired little brother rhetoric.

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Did you read back on the post I originally commented on?

The question was does he have any ties to the school or the state. The answer is yes to both. I didn’t think I’d have to fully explain it as I give ISU fans the benefit of filling in the blanks, but here it goes:

He grew up in Iowa on the east side of the state ,played basketball at UNI (State tie) His brother was a football player at Iowa and was a 2 time AA and 3 time all Big 10 (Iowa Tie).

Don’t lash out at others for your insecurities as a fan. That’s not my problem.
 

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At this point with TJ I’m not scared of anyone in the country much less DeVries who is a good coach no doubt. But TJ has shown he is one of the top coaches in the country as far as roster development.

It really doesn't effect us much. We play once a year. Iowa is not exactly a hot bed of Div 1 prospects. Not like football where you have to recruit the state and compete to fill a huge roster. Would be different if we were in the same league.
 

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I've seen this take hundreds of times, and it's stupid every time. I've been a Cyclone fan since 1980, but didn't attend ISU. Have I been a fake fan for 45 *ucking years?

My generation of Iowans migrated towards Iowa because they became successful while ISU was a dumpster fire. The butthurtedness is getting really old.
The fact that you became a fan while we were awful makes you not a fake fan. The biggest gripe I have about Iowa fans is that it seems to fit hand in glove that a vocal majority of them that talks the most **** about Iowa State didn't attend the university.
 

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Damn MRed now has them as the last seed in BTT (#15). If they finish 8-12 as I hope, they would still have to play on Wed as the #10 or #11 seed.

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At the risk of sounding like I don't follow the B1G... the bottom 3 teams don't even get in the conference tournament? Seriously? I googled it, and that is the deal.

How did they come up with that? 1d20? 2d8+1?
Why 15 teams? Why not 8? or 12? or 16?

Why not 2 tournaments, with the top 8 together (that's a good tv product) and then the other 10 with the hope some of the bubble teams can win their way in?
 
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I would never get picked, I'd have to lose weight first because Fran likes them scrawny. If Fran coached women @carvers4math would be his style. Are you goofy looking carvers, you'd be a shoe in then. ;)
Well of course I am now, I’m in my 60’s. Back in college, probably not as I was more muscular and less scrawny.

My ginger kid would have fit right in though when Fran was in his ginger phase. He averaged about 6-7 points a game in high school, surprised Fran wasn’t knocking on our door.
 

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Based on my 19 years on this site, this is the Cyclone fanatic rule:

If you grow up a hawkeye, but attend iowa state - you're a cyclone.
If you grow up a cyclone, cheer and support the team your entire life, but don't attend iowa state - you're not a cyclone
 
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At the risk of sounding like I don't follow the B1G... the bottom 3 teams don't even get in the conference tournament? Seriously? I googled it, and that is the deal.

How did they come up with that? 1d20? 2d8+1?
Why 15 teams? Why not 8? or 12? or 16?

Why not 2 tournaments, with the top 8 together (that's a good tv product) and then the other 10 with the hope some of the bubble teams can win their way in?
Best way to do it with 20 teams while giving the top 4 seeds a first round bye. ACC is doing the same thing this year.