Do people not think an AD desperately trying to uncover additional revenue streams hasn't weighed changing student tickets against the risk of alienating your future ticket buyers?
We were charged both in the late 80's early 90'sare students still charged an "athletics fee" like we were in the early 2000's which got you into game for "free" to all events? or has that long since passed.
I wouldn't be surprised if there is a higher athletics fee and then they charge the students for tickets now because, you know, capitalism.
I've got no interest in that fight. Fine with whatever the AD thinks is the right choice.So you are in support for reducing the number of seats for the people that don’t care as much hopefully.
Are you really at all shocked by this given today's folks of that age?! I see it 24/7 where I work with people who are 4-6 years older than students and it just seems to get worse the lower you go.The students are also super quiet. Always standing with their arms folded or looking at their phones.
@VeloClone @alarson care to elaborate on why you disagree with this? Are myself and three other posters down thread remembering incorrectly?Weren't the games on CBS (or similar) every night 30 years ago?
Most were on ABC if I remember right. But fair point
During the back half of the 90's (when I started watching) it seemed like we could watch most ISU hoops games in north Iowa through some kind of OTA broadcast that was carried by our CBS affiliate (KIMT out of Mason City).
Football was a different story.
Channel 5 but it was only regional. Eastern Iowa couldn’t watch.
That isn't endemic to that age group. There are plenty people all the way up to boomers that are exactly the same way.Are you really at all shocked by this given today's folks of that age?! I see it 24/7 where I work with people who are 4-6 years older than students and it just seems to get worse the lower you go.
Ha! They really only show up for Iowa, Ku, Houston,Kstate this yr. Week night attendance is mediocre from the student and only about 1 or 2 Saturdays do they show out."Who TF cares about Cincy" would be my guess.
Things might be different if we were still in the hunt for a conference title or 1 seed, but jockeying for seeding against opponents we don't have much (recent) history with and are projected to obliterate isn't going to get you a packed student section.
No disagreement there. But it's pretty bad with the younger generations in general from my experience.That isn't endemic to that age group. There are plenty people all the way up to boomers that are exactly the same way.
Just didn't read or think about it correctly. I remembered growing up in NE Iowa and rarely getting to watch the games. However, I realized after that you were posting about Central Iowa and my reference point was more than 30 years ago.@VeloClone @alarson care to elaborate on why you disagree with this? Are myself and three other posters down thread remembering incorrectly?
I don't know what you mean by "NE Iowa", but the Mason City CBS affiliate regularly carried ISU basketball in the 90's.Just didn't read or think about it correctly. I remembered growing up in NE Iowa and rarely getting to watch the games. However, I realized after that you were posting about Central Iowa and my reference point was more than 30 years ago.
Damn, I'm getting old.
Waterloo/Cedar Rapids market is NE Iowa. Mason City is North Iowa. Also, did you miss the part about how I realized that my reference point was more than 30 years ago so actually in the 80s.I don't know what you mean by "NE Iowa", but the Mason City CBS affiliate regularly carried ISU basketball in the 90's.
I can attest to the eastern Iowa comment. I was president of the NE Iowa cyclone Club for about 10 years. We had no TV and almost no radios coverage. I visited multiple radio and TV stations personally, and most said they could not sell the advertising. ( I do not think they wanted too). I finally got a local radio station on board. I finally gave up TV and just bought a special antenna so I could get WOI. I was in Waterloo.@VeloClone @alarson care to elaborate on why you disagree with this? Are myself and three other posters down thread remembering incorrectly?
AD is laughing their way to the bank right now overselling the seats and making money at a much better rate than the comparable seats on the other end.Do people not think an AD desperately trying to uncover additional revenue streams hasn't weighed changing student tickets against the risk of alienating your future ticket buyers?
To be fair there were plenty of empty seats scattered throughout hilton last night so it wasn't just the students who didn't show.Yup, make it harder to get student tickets so only the best of the best go.
Could make a little more money if open to public/donors for that upper seating.
I wasn't trying to be argumentative, I was just trying to piece together the when and where of this kind of coverage existed.Waterloo/Cedar Rapids market is NE Iowa. Mason City is North Iowa. Also, did you miss the part about how I realized that my reference point was more than 30 years ago so actually in the 80s.
He’s more my age. KIMT only carried Hawkeye crap on the regular before I was at ISU, started 90. During college I don’t know since I was in AmesI don't know what you mean by "NE Iowa", but the Mason City CBS affiliate regularly carried ISU basketball in the 90's.
I didn't pay attention to sports prior to 1995, so I don't really know what that era looked like.
My kids and their buddies watch football and then ISU stuff but don’t go out of their way and may make a game or two of MBB or wrestling. We all have season football tickets.My son is a great athlete, a successful football and basketball player, is a total sporto...does he watch sports on tv? Nope. Do any of his friends that are good athletes? Nope. He watches highlights, might pop in for a few minutes to watch a game and then back to his room or out with his friends.
This issue is only going to get worse. I'd bet in another 20-30 years these stadiums are going to shrink in major ways, gen x and some older millennials are the last of the sports loving generations. (at least as far as watching and attending).
Oh gosh not at all. For a while WOI put most of the Saturday games on, but it was only in the WOI viewing area.Weren't the games on CBS (or similar) every night 30 years ago?