You can make math and stats produce any value or answer you want it to. When humans define what math they use (as is the case with BPI, RPI, Sagarin, etc...), it is an inherently flawed decision to blindly trust it as "unbiased". Deciding what stats and weights do and do not make it "accurate" is a decision in bias and opinion, which makes it not much different than the eye test of AP voters. Kentucky is #5 in the BPI. That's ridiculous. Does anyone on this planet (outside of BBN) think Kentucky is the fifth best college basketball team this year? NO.
Strength of Schedule
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ISU has TWO games played against teams in the BPI Top 10; Kansas has FIVE. I would take ISU's schedule ALL DAY.But we had to play Kansas twice so that makes our schedule toughercool:
Yeah, BPI is a bit crazy to suggest ISU's SOS is stronger than KU's. It's pretty much KU in all the other computer rankings (KenPom, Sagarin, RPI), and it should be just looking at their schedule. But ISU certainly has a case for having a top 10 SOS, which is still outstanding and will play well with the selection committee come seeding time.
It better. We keep the wins up, and ISU should be a 2 or a 3 seed going into the Big Boy tourney.
That is called statistics, not Math.
Math = Finite
Statistics = shape your results to your focus group
We'll go down but stay in the top 10. I think the RPI SOS is what matters most and we're #5 there.
Any way you slice it we'll be better off with the committee looking at RPI and SOS rankings than human voter polls, that is unless we start tearing it up every season for 5-10 years straight and we become the overrated brand team.
I could wrong but I don't think our RPI has been lower than 13th since the first weeks of the season.
Twocoach is honestly the most annoying Kansas homer I've ever encountered, and I've encountered my fair share of them.
His motto "I'm going to make a point, reiterate that point by saying the exact same thing, and then reiterate it some more."
Find a Kansas site to state your ****. No one here wants to hear it. Wanna post Hoibergs kid crying? Post it on emaw.
To think, Ellen was always joking around and got banned for it. You're just always being a troll that somehow stays on this site
His motto "I'm going to make a point, reiterate that point by saying the exact same thing, and then reiterate it some more."
Find a Kansas site to state your ****. No one here wants to hear it. Wanna post Hoibergs kid crying? Post it on emaw.
To think, Ellen was always joking around and got banned for it. You're just always being a troll that somehow stays on this site
Iowa State:
at Kansas
Kansas
Michigan
at Texas
Oklahoma
at Oklahoma
at Oklahoma State
Iowa
Kansas State
at BYU
Baylor
Boise State (neutral)
Kansas:
at Florida
Villanova (neutral)
San Diego State
at Iowa State
Iowa State
Duke (neutral)
at Texas
at Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
New Mexico (neutral)
at Colorado
Kansas State
Baylor
at Baylor
Toledo
Georgetown
Iowa State’s SOS is solid. It isn’t better than KU’s.
at Kansas
Kansas
Michigan
at Texas
Oklahoma
at Oklahoma
at Oklahoma State
Iowa
Kansas State
at BYU
Baylor
Boise State (neutral)
Kansas:
at Florida
Villanova (neutral)
San Diego State
at Iowa State
Iowa State
Duke (neutral)
at Texas
at Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
New Mexico (neutral)
at Colorado
Kansas State
Baylor
at Baylor
Toledo
Georgetown
Iowa State’s SOS is solid. It isn’t better than KU’s.
twocoach is another data point to support my argument that KU Sucks I am not talking about their results in Basketball games, I am talking about the general perception of KU which includes fans like you.
KU has been #1 or #2 virtually the entire season in RPI because of that schedule. They played a bunch of traditionally top non conf opponents, then Colorado and SDSU are better than anyone would have guessed when scheduled
SOS for various ratings:
BPI = #1 ISU, #2 KU
RPI = #1 KU, #5 ISU
KenPom = #1 KU, #4 ISU
Sagarin = #1 KU, #3 ISU
Saying KU has had a tougher schedule is fine. Saying KU has had a tougher schedule and it is not even close is ludicrous. I get it, you love KU. Guess what, WE DON'T. So get your biased opinions about KU off of the CYCLONE message board.
BPI = #1 ISU, #2 KU
RPI = #1 KU, #5 ISU
KenPom = #1 KU, #4 ISU
Sagarin = #1 KU, #3 ISU
Saying KU has had a tougher schedule is fine. Saying KU has had a tougher schedule and it is not even close is ludicrous. I get it, you love KU. Guess what, WE DON'T. So get your biased opinions about KU off of the CYCLONE message board.
I love how the original post and discussion of there of is completely derailed once Twocoach enters the conversation. This guy Trolls Hard. The OP thoughtfully makes a factual observation, BPI says ISu has the toughest SOS. The OP did not mention or slight Kansas, or RPI SOS or anything that relates to Kansas. Yet twocoach has to swing in and belittle the OP's factual statement as if its an attack on KU. GO HOME TROLL.... Seriously, you rarely add anything meaningful to the conversation.
That bing said, yes, BPI is the only one that has ISU SOS listed as #1. I am surprised, as I don't think overall we have had the toughest SOS, the last 8 games yes, overall no.
A couple of others: (Links are on Massey's comparison page: College Basketball Ranking Composite)
Least Squares = #1 KU, #2 ISU (this has been one of the top predictors of NCAA Tournament success)
Massey = #1 KU, #3 ISU
Stanford = #1 KU, #2 ISU
Breisch = #1 KU, #3 ISU
Whitlock = #1 KU, #2 ISU
Team Rankings = #1 KU, #4 ISU
Colley = #1 KU, #3 ISU
ISU is Top 5 in every one that I have found so far. Yes KU is #1, but #1 is close to #2, #3, #4 and #5. Only a biased person would say it is not.
Least Squares = #1 KU, #2 ISU (this has been one of the top predictors of NCAA Tournament success)
Massey = #1 KU, #3 ISU
Stanford = #1 KU, #2 ISU
Breisch = #1 KU, #3 ISU
Whitlock = #1 KU, #2 ISU
Team Rankings = #1 KU, #4 ISU
Colley = #1 KU, #3 ISU
ISU is Top 5 in every one that I have found so far. Yes KU is #1, but #1 is close to #2, #3, #4 and #5. Only a biased person would say it is not.
