Stanzi vs. Arnaud

[RedBlooded]

Who is better? HawkNation says Stanzi is better.

Arnaud's career stats: 5339 passing yards 29 TDs, 1025 yards rushing, 14 rushing TDs

Stanzi's career stats: 4602 passing yards 32 TDs, -8 rushing yards, 0 rushing TDs

 

[CloneINOregon]

Whats Stanzi's record at QB?

Hard to go against that

 

[Clones21]

Arnaud is much more athletic. I pick Arnaud though, because hes a double threat. He can run and throw pretty well.

 

[keepngoal]

Stanzi I am afraid to say .... throw in the INT stats and he has the lead. IMO, AA is a more complete QB or at least his potential is ....

-keep

 

[nileo]

Two totally differen't QBs. Arnaud wouldn't last in their system and stanzi would struggle w/ ours.
If you want to say who has more upside and a possible pro career - no doubt it is Stanzi.
Plus, as much as we bash Stanzi, you can't argue w/ his record as a starter. Isn't he like 20-4 or something?

 

[Clones21]

Whats Stanzi's record at QB?

Hard to go against that

Cant really go off of that. Iowa's defense has won him a bunch of games.

 

[3TrueFans]

Arnaud is obviously more athletic, but unfortunately if I needed to win a game I'd probably go with Stanzi.

 

[DaddyMac]

Who is better? HawkNation says Stanzi is better.

Arnaud's career stats: 5339 passing yards 29 TDs, 1025 yards rushing, 14 rushing TDs

Stanzi's career stats: 4602 passing yards 32 TDs, -8 rushing yards, 0 rushing TDs

Shocking.

Hard to compare as they're very different QBs. Probably give a slight nod to Stanzi since he's performed on the bigger stage and won.

You wouldn't happen to have pass pct or ints to go with those other stat, would you?

That being said - I'm not willing to trade AA or anything

 

[benjay]

Whats Stanzi's record at QB?

Hard to go against that

Well.. Stanzi wasn't coached by Gene Chizik.

 

[IcSyU]

In a pro-style, Stanzi.
In a spread, Arnaud.

They are each suited for their own offense.

 

[Cydkar]

In our 2 biggest wins last year Arnaud either didn't play or played like crap. Stanzi has won big games and Arnaud really hasn't. At the same time, Stanzi had a better defense to back him up.

 

[Sloup]

Ricky's stats last year was a lower completion percentage (Ricky's 171/304 compared to Austen's 178/303) for 400 more yards, almost another 1.5 yards per attempt. The fact that he completely lacks any sort of running game is easily covered up by the fact that Iowa has a deep running back corps. Arnaud is easily more versatile, but these statistics stem from the fact that they are two different quarterbacks in two different systems.

You could make an argument that Ricky should be able to hone his passing game and put up even more impressive stats since he (almost) never runs with the ball, but don't say it too loud.

 

[edr247]

They're two QBs with different playing styles leading two teams with different offensive systems.

Stanzi, even with all his mistakes, has proven himself to be able to shrug off mistakes and lead the team down the field when it counts. Yes, he's helped out by a good defense, and yes, he's not perfect, but he is a strong leader on the field, and he can make the throws when he needs to. Will his 4th quarter magic hold up? Maybe, maybe not.

Arnaud has had several injuries that have perhaps prevented him from reaching his full potential. He also makes mistakes, but unlike Stanzi, doesn't have as good of a defense to help bail him out. He also doesn't, to my knowledge, have Stanzi's apparent brilliance in the 4th quarter (part of which is apparently forgetting about everything he might have done wrong in the first three...)

What Arnaud has, that I wish Stanzi had a bit more of, is the ability to make things happen on his feet. Yeah, he can move the ball at times using his feet, but doesn't usually do much outside of rolling out on the play action. If he could move the ball even half as well as Arnaud, I think you're talking about a very dangerous Iowa offense.

 

[FDWxMan]

You wouldn't happen to have pass pct or ints to go with those other stat, would you?

That being said - I'm not willing to trade AA or anything

If my math is correct...

Stanzi 58.3% 25 INT

AA 60.7% 26 INT

 

[azepp]

Who is better? HawkNation says Stanzi is better.

Arnaud's career stats: 5339 passing yards 29 TDs, 1025 yards rushing, 14 rushing TDs

Stanzi's career stats: 4602 passing yards 32 TDs, -8 rushing yards, 0 rushing TDs

Arnaud: 60.7% completion, 26 INT, 32 sacks, 30 games played
Stanzi: 57.9% completion, 25 INT, 47 sacks, 28 games played

 

[Al_4_State]

Taking their records into account is ********. Do you think Stanzi is 20-4 with ISU's (or most other teams') defense? Hell no. Wins and losses are a product of team play. Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Dan Marino never did. Stanzi plays very well with the game on the line, but if you're going to compare them as individual players, Stanzi shouldn't get credit for playing on a better team.

Thing is, neither team would be better if you switched QBs. In fact, both teams would probably be worse with the other guy in charge. Both guys make big plays when they have to, but are prone to lapses in judgment. Despite having wildly different styles, they have an awful lot in common. Both have big arms, but throw a lot of picks. Stanzi is a little more accurate, and Arnaud is a better runner.

 

[JP4CY]

Who is better? HawkNation says Stanzi is better.

Arnaud's career stats: 5339 passing yards 29 TDs, 1025 yards rushing, 14 rushing TDs

Stanzi's career stats: 4602 passing yards 32 TDs, -8 rushing yards, 0 rushing TDs

You should put number of games played for that.
Also, it would be intriguing to know the average defense ranking that is against.

 

[DaddyMac]

If my math is correct...

Stanzi 58.3% 25 INT

AA 60.7% 26 INT

AA has only 1 more INT than Stanzi? Not doubting you, but I find that very surprising (not that I watch Iowa alot)

 

[isubeatle]

The one quality that i wish AA had that Stanzi has is the confidence. Last year Stanzi would throw an INT and it didn't seem to phase him at all. The next possession you couldn't even tell he had thrown an INT. AA seems to let his emotions get the best of him.

 

[Al_4_State]

They're two QBs with different playing styles leading two teams with different offensive systems.

Stanzi, even with all his mistakes, has proven himself to be able to shrug off mistakes and lead the team down the field when it counts. Yes, he's helped out by a good defense, and yes, he's not perfect, but he is a strong leader on the field, and he can make the throws when he needs to. Will his 4th quarter magic hold up? Maybe, maybe not.

Arnaud has had several injuries that have perhaps prevented him from reaching his full potential. He also makes mistakes, but unlike Stanzi, doesn't have as good of a defense to help bail him out. He also doesn't, to my knowledge, have Stanzi's apparent brilliance in the 4th quarter (part of which is apparently forgetting about everything he might have done wrong in the first three...)

What Arnaud has, that I wish Stanzi had a bit more of, is the ability to make things happen on his feet. Yeah, he can move the ball at times using his feet, but doesn't usually do much outside of rolling out on the play action. If he could move the ball even half as well as Arnaud, I think you're talking about a very dangerous Iowa offense.

Arnaud has lead a handful of last minute touchdown drives that either did, or should have tied the game, sending it to OT. At UNLV as a freshman, he lead the team 97 yards for a TD with 1:03 left, and against KSU last year we went 80 yards with about 1:30, to get the tying TD. Against KSU, as you probably know, the PAT was blocked, and against UNLV the offense got the ball first and hit a field goal, and the defense let up a TD on the first play.

We didn't win those games, but it had nothing to do with QB play in the clutch, which is what gave us a chance to win in the first place.