SPOILER Thread with SPOILERS for Avengers: Endgame, with SPOILERS
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I found a video that tries to do a "what if" this happened in the real world. Like, if Thanos and the Avengers and the snap happened on an "Earth" on the other side of the universe, and half the human population here disappeared and nobody had any idea why. I think he goes overboard with taking the "half of all life" literally to include all crops and fauna, but imagine most of his events playing out without the crops and trees disappearing. (Despite what Feige said, I think the snap would take only sapient life, otherwise it makes no sense)
Well I really feel geeky posting here since I am a 49 year old guy. But these Marvel movies have really become a part of my relationship with my two sons. They are just a lot of fun and I don't get too wrapped up in the timeline issues.
Two things I would change otherwise this movie was perfect. I would have rather had Drax as the surviving Guardian instead of Rocket. Rocket is good but for some reason I always found Drax to be the most hilarious of all the characters. Second thing is I would have broke out a couple bars of Black Sabbath when Stark let Thanos know who he was.
I really liked new Hulk and "The Dude" like Thor was awesome. I thought it was really cool when the girls all united in battle also. When Dr Strange raised his finger to tell Iron Man they had 1 chance it gave me chills. Okay now I am going to go back to being a boring middle aged dude.
Two things I would change otherwise this movie was perfect. I would have rather had Drax as the surviving Guardian instead of Rocket. Rocket is good but for some reason I always found Drax to be the most hilarious of all the characters. Second thing is I would have broke out a couple bars of Black Sabbath when Stark let Thanos know who he was.
I really liked new Hulk and "The Dude" like Thor was awesome. I thought it was really cool when the girls all united in battle also. When Dr Strange raised his finger to tell Iron Man they had 1 chance it gave me chills. Okay now I am going to go back to being a boring middle aged dude.
Ah, got it.
Didn't realize it was life outside of humans too.
No idea on the stuff about the reverse snap as I've not seen the new one.
We know he will have a TV but do we know when in the timeline the show is taking place.
Finally saw it last night. I’ll need to watch again. I felt like a lot of the movie was fan service but good. Something tells me I will enjoy it much more the second time. No idea how they plan to carry the avengers without Stark. He murdered as that character to such an extent, I don’t know who can fill the character role and be remotely as interesting.
One thing about moving to the next "phase" is people really love these characters and especially the actors playing them.
Without Cap and Tony the Avengers lose a lot of brain power, money, leadership and firepower.
It will definitely be weird seeing future movies without Cap and Tony. They were casted and acted so perfectly.
It will definitely be weird seeing future movies without Cap and Tony. They were casted and acted so perfectly.
I thought it was more likeLet’s call Hulk what he really is now - a vegetable farmer.
There would definitely be some short-term problems. I don't think there would be mass starvation.. Unlike a war the infrastructure would still be in place.
The time travel stuff will never be perfect. They had that scene about time travel movies to make fun of it all. Celebrating their own ridiculousness. It was pretty funny
My biggest take away from Endgame: Back to the Future is ********.
With where we were with superhero movies 10-15 years ago, before Iron Man... it would have been hard to imagine a superhero movie where people were openly in tears in the theater. But that's what theyve managed to do.
One hell of an achievement by everyone involved over this last decade to get us there.
Meh.
Don't get me wrong, I have seen way worse movies in my life.
Just didn't do it for me.
General problems...
-- The cinematography, which was generally bright and colorful in Marvel films after Guardians 1 and since Thor: Ragnorak, felt dark and muddled compared to normal.
-- Introducing time travel as a plot conceit in any film not carefully built around it (e.g., Back to the Future or Interstellar and the like) is incredibly dangerous, and the handwaving they did to just ignore time paradoxes and causality did not work for me.
-- While it was never as bad as Jar Jar Abrams and the wretched mess Star Wars has become since the reboot, there was a 30 minute period there in the middle that veered dangerously close to a clip show... too much fan service/recapping in this one.
-- Did not agree with the end for Captain America at all -- would Cap really just go back and time and sit on his hands? Would he stand pat during the Cold War or while Hydra was taking over SHIELD as he knew it would be doing in his timeline? Would he not do everything he could to help Bucky when he knew he was enslaved by the Soviets?
Yes, he has "earned" retirement and a good, quiet life, but that is the romance and symbolism behind his character. Plenty of good men of his generation had done their part but fought on because there were still missions to complete. This includes everyone of that Greatest Generation from Europe, to the Pacific, to Korea, and the space program.
No way Cap just hangs it up. The fact that he deserves to, more than any other man, but that is would never call it quits is what makes him the hero that he is, no?
Overall, it was alright. It moved product. I was just not that impressed with the plot, the coherence of the cinematography, and some of the choices about characters.
Don't get me wrong, I have seen way worse movies in my life.
Just didn't do it for me.
General problems...
-- The cinematography, which was generally bright and colorful in Marvel films after Guardians 1 and since Thor: Ragnorak, felt dark and muddled compared to normal.
-- Introducing time travel as a plot conceit in any film not carefully built around it (e.g., Back to the Future or Interstellar and the like) is incredibly dangerous, and the handwaving they did to just ignore time paradoxes and causality did not work for me.
-- While it was never as bad as Jar Jar Abrams and the wretched mess Star Wars has become since the reboot, there was a 30 minute period there in the middle that veered dangerously close to a clip show... too much fan service/recapping in this one.
-- Did not agree with the end for Captain America at all -- would Cap really just go back and time and sit on his hands? Would he stand pat during the Cold War or while Hydra was taking over SHIELD as he knew it would be doing in his timeline? Would he not do everything he could to help Bucky when he knew he was enslaved by the Soviets?
Yes, he has "earned" retirement and a good, quiet life, but that is the romance and symbolism behind his character. Plenty of good men of his generation had done their part but fought on because there were still missions to complete. This includes everyone of that Greatest Generation from Europe, to the Pacific, to Korea, and the space program.
No way Cap just hangs it up. The fact that he deserves to, more than any other man, but that is would never call it quits is what makes him the hero that he is, no?
Overall, it was alright. It moved product. I was just not that impressed with the plot, the coherence of the cinematography, and some of the choices about characters.
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I liked the jokes, but the juxtaposition of the jokes with say Hawkeye going Ronin and obviously being in a dark place felt awkward to me. Didn't like what they did with Cap, didn't like the time travel stuff, didn't care for how cap could just put all the stones back as they were so easily? Didn't understand Thanos power dynamic compared to Thor, etc. He didn't have stones but was pretty damn strong. I don't know what they do with Captain Marvel in these kinds of movies, almost godlike at this point.
That said I did enjoy it, I was moved by several aspects of it and enjoyed many parts of it.
That said I did enjoy it, I was moved by several aspects of it and enjoyed many parts of it.
