So we're ranked again

Cyclonepride

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https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...Lw_LUd0ks0EORIm9Hyc6CeGDWe0iBw-4V0j5cCqkuLJNQ

"Iowa State, which has lost three of its past four games, actually moved up two spots Monday to return to the top 25, at No. 25. The Cyclones (20-8 overall, 9-7 Big 12 Conference) remain out of The Associated Press' rankings, receiving votes at No. 28. "

First time I remember benefiting, rather than losing ground, due to inattention to what's going on.

I do think we're a top 30 team, but this is odd.
 

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https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...Lw_LUd0ks0EORIm9Hyc6CeGDWe0iBw-4V0j5cCqkuLJNQ

"Iowa State, which has lost three of its past four games, actually moved up two spots Monday to return to the top 25, at No. 25. The Cyclones (20-8 overall, 9-7 Big 12 Conference) remain out of The Associated Press' rankings, receiving votes at No. 28. "

First time I remember benefiting, rather than losing ground, due to inattention to what's going on.

I do think we're a top 30 team, but this is odd.
25 in the coaches poll? Hmmm
 

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I think it’s becuase most people know we’re better than what we’re playing. Which is why somehow we’re still predicted a 5 seed.
 
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What I found interesting was that most voters perceive Oklahoma as a tournament team (and progressing upward?), while by the same token they view TCU as not, and regressing.

Both teams are 18-11 and 6-10.....TCU has scored 133 more points than they've given up, OU 97.

But one is probably in, and the other is probably out.

This is why I'm not a college basketball writer, because I don't get it.
 

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I said the same about OU, I don't understand why they are "in". Their record just doesn't look like a tourney record to me at all... And I think their last 2 games are KU and KSU. Guess they have a chance to play their way in anyway.
 

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I said the same about OU, I don't understand why they are "in". Their record just doesn't look like a tourney record to me at all... And I think their last 2 games are KU and KSU. Guess they have a chance to play their way in anyway.

Weak, weak bubble. Indiana has a shot at 15-14 (with admittedly better wins than OU, but with worse losses too).
 
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What I found interesting was that most voters perceive Oklahoma as a tournament team (and progressing upward?), while by the same token they view TCU as not, and regressing.

Both teams are 18-11 and 6-10.....TCU has scored 133 more points than they've given up, OU 97.

But one is probably in, and the other is probably out.

This is why I'm not a college basketball writer, because I don't get it.

I'm not complaining, but I find it odd that we are consistently seeded higher than KSU in most of the tourney predictions as well.
 
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I said the same about OU, I don't understand why they are "in". Their record just doesn't look like a tourney record to me at all... And I think their last 2 games are KU and KSU. Guess they have a chance to play their way in anyway.

Horrible bubble this year. Worst I can ever remember. There aren't 32 at-larges that deserve a bid, let alone 36. You have to fill the field somewhere.

We are still firmly looking at a 5-seed which seems crazy, but is just fact based on everyone else. If we go 1-1 this week, either way, we should be looking at that type of seed. 2-0, we may go back up to a 4. 0-2, probably no lower than a 6. The 7 seeds and lower are VERY weak. We already have 5 Q1 wins and 3 are on the road. That TT win looks better and better all the time.
 
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The surprise to me is that we haven't been getting the benefit of the doubt when we stumbled (but were playing well overall), and suddenly we get the benefit of the doubt when we've really been stumbling.

Not really benefit of the doubt...just that there is a lot of mediocrity this year in CBB and our numbers still are very strong even with recent losses. Look, I think Texas is a pretty crappy team but they are sitting at 25 in KenPom right now. Our recent losses, which have looked really bad from our perspective as fans, don't look bad at all given the numbers that are out there.
 

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Horrible bubble this year. Worst I can ever remember. There aren't 32 at-larges that deserve a bid, let alone 36. You have to fill the field somewhere.

We are still firmly looking at a 5-seed which seems crazy, but is just fact based on everyone else. If we go 1-1 this week, either way, we should be looking at that type of seed. 2-0, we may go back up to a 4. 0-2, probably no lower than a 6. The 7 seeds and lower are VERY weak. We already have 5 Q1 wins and 3 are on the road. That TT win looks better and better all the time.

There are teams all over the country that are Jeckyll and Hyde for sure. As tough as it is to remember, we have some really high quality wins, and no real bad losses (Arizona would be a bad loss, but we were missing 4 for that, so I don't think it will count much against us).

If we win both this week, I think we keep the 5 seed. If we go 1-1, I think we're a 6, and 0-2 might be a 7. Big 12 tournament could have an effect as well, I suppose, but I think we're at worst an 8 if we lose out.
 

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I said the same about OU, I don't understand why they are "in". Their record just doesn't look like a tourney record to me at all... And I think their last 2 games are KU and KSU. Guess they have a chance to play their way in anyway.

They were given a lot of credit for their non con, it wasn't amazing but they did beat Florida, ND, Creighton, USC, Wichita and Northwestern. Basically all of those teams were predicted to finish much better than they ended up. OU is still getting credit for beating them when they were considered decent wins and for only having 1 non con loss (Wisconsin).
 

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