Stop exaggerating. He is shooting 48% so it's not 60% that have no chance.
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Stop exaggerating. He is shooting 48% so it's not 60% that have no chance.
Agree 100%. I watched every Iowa State games back then. Great dude, tough as nail, and great rebounder his senior year, but he didn’t have good offensive skills. Most of his points came from put backs, lay offs and dunks from good passes. He had a great game against North Carolina but so as Sam Hill against North Carolina State in sweet sixteen game in 1985. No one says Sam Hill was a good offensive player.
Ive been a big Jones defender but his +/- cannot be good over the last few conference games.
Just read through this thread.
I am glad TJ is the one making the rotation decisions...
I am glad TJ is the one making the rotation decisions...
I just wish the coaches would teach them how to use the backboard when they’re within 5 feet of the basket!
He was -12 against Texas while Osun was +17. We absolutely got pounded during Bob’s 9 minutes. Against Kansas he was -4 while Osun was +5.
He's playing a very different role and style this year than the previous years. You can tell by blocks and fouls. With the Bonnies he sat in the lane and was a rim protector. He blocked a lot of shots and didn't foul. We're asking him to do a lot more - play a lot harder on defense - than he did before. The 20/20 split between Shoon and Jones is very intentional. I expect as the season rolls on, we'll see that creep more toward 25/15 or more - but the coaches very intentionally view them as an two-headed monster at the 5.
I think a part of Jones' bad shots in close have to do with his free throw shooting. He is such a bad free throw shooter that teams feel free to be extremely physical with him when he goes up for a shot since sending Jones to the line is a win for them especially when they are already in the bonus. He is absorbing so much contact that he often takes it up too strong to make sure he at least gets it up on the rim.
Yep, he's a big body that takes up space. He's not afraid to bang. Moves decent enough to be fairly effective on the perimeter for defense. He can facilitate a little, and gives you 110%. Not an all conference player, but is a nice change of pace player for this team! Hopefully he gets his confidence back and can start hitting a few shots again.
yipes. +/- is a limited statistic from what I can tell, but in this instance correlation did seem to = causation
Additionally in the post-Texas recap, Osun is saying as much that he thought he was ready for big-time Big 12/power 5 minutes, but acknowledged the grind was an adjustment, but he feels like he's there now.
To my eyes, that's showing up in his play. whether it was physical endurance, strength or mental resilience or no off nights, I don't know, but I don't think min breakdown during non-con/first week of Big12 is going to go unchanged, they're already becoming more and more fluid.
I think that's a valid observation, something I hadn't considered. Could explain how sometimes his moves look fairly fluid, other times extremely awkward -- maybe amount of contact varies.
(Not dismissing general missed bunnies or occasions when it might be best to pass the ball back out)
He's had a full offseason to condition. I understand our defensive style is more intense, but his conditioning isn't near the problem you are making it out to be. He's been taken out of games when he was effective on both ends of the floor while never really losing that throughout the course of the game. At some point, we have to stretch his minutes as his presence is one of the limiting factors to our success. You basically play Shoon until fouls or his play dictate otherwise. The latter simply hasn't been happening.
That depends. In the cases of teams (especially when it's both teams) with relatively limited rotations it can be indicative of play, especially where it's two players that sub/rotate for each other. They are almost never on the court (if ever) at the same time.
Things I feel confident in that is also the mark of a strong program: the staff has a plan, the players understand their role within the plan, and they will work toward it.
