Ross Dellenger report on SEC spring meetings

[CyCrazy]

I think that there are years when a Boise or a Memphis or even an Oregon State can compete. But, they are going to be seeded low enough that they won’t stay close to the 5 seed or 1 seed however it plays out.

Ya possibly. I would just have there own playoffs like fcs if I where them.

 

[Cloneon]

Just my opinion. BUT, 'underdogs' are the popular (not betting) choice against the big boys because the sheer resentment of the system. This makes for a very large viewing audience and shouldn't be underestimated in the calculations.

 

[cyfanbr]

You’re an idiot.

Enlightening. Kettle meet pot I suppose.

Just calling out the hypocrisy of it all. The SEC sees us like you guys are referring to the G5. I know there will be bad games, but ultimately postseason college football needs to be about competition, and not about what’s most appealing to TV networks. I’m sure the first couple of games may not be interesting, but then after that you get the top tier teams against each other. I don’t need a wave of teams that can’t even win their conference to be playing again in post season just because that’s a better TV product. I already have that September - November during regular season.

 

[CyCrazy]

Just my opinion. BUT, 'underdogs' are the popular (not betting) choice against the big boys because the sheer resentment of the system. This makes for a very large viewing audience and shouldn't be underestimated in the calculations.

Wut, no one cares about watching blowouts. Also it's all about TV ratings.

 

[Cloneon]

Wut, no one cares about watching blowouts.

At what point though do viewers abandon the game in a blowout? People still buy lottery tickets, knowing that's a blowout.

 

[LarryISU]

I think that there are years when a Boise or a Memphis or even an Oregon State can compete. But, they are going to be seeded low enough that they won’t stay close to the 5 seed or 1 seed however it plays out.

Memphis is an interesting case. They have more money to buy a team than probably several P4 teams. Problem is, how many really good players want to waste their talent against Rice, Tulsa, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, etc. Money can't solve everything.

 

[RustShack]

Enlightening. Kettle meet pot I suppose.

Just calling out the hypocrisy of it all. The SEC sees us like you guys are referring to the G5. I know there will be bad games, but ultimately postseason college football needs to be about competition, and not about what’s most appealing to TV networks. I’m sure the first couple of games may not be interesting, but then after that you get the top tier teams against each other. I don’t need a wave of teams that can’t even win their conference to be playing again in post season just because that’s a better TV product. I already have that September - November during regular season.

5+11 gives the best G5 a shot, as well as 11 chances to have any other deserving G5 or P4 teams make the playoffs. As you said it’s about competition, and giving every G5 an automatic bid doesn’t create competition, it creates blowouts.

 

[cyfanbr]

5+11 gives the best G5 a shot, as well as 11 chances to have any other deserving G5 or P4 teams make the playoffs. As you said it’s about competition, and giving every G5 an automatic bid doesn’t create competition, it creates blowouts.

Im good with the 5+11 given all the possibilities. Way better than the 4+4+2+2 atrocity.

 

[CyCrazy]

At what point though do viewers abandon the game in a blowout? People still buy lottery tickets, knowing that's a blowout.

For me mid 2nd qrt or halftime.

 

[ISUTex]

That quote has two parts to it.

Kelly is saying “yeah…we’ll go to a 9 game conference schedule, so long as we can play a Big10 team as part of our non-conference slate.”

Think of the ripple effect.

You think if Iowa is forced to play Mississippi State in the non-con, they are going to be all gung ho about keeping Iowa State on the schedule? The SEC isn’t going to drop their game with The Citadel in this scenario. They will drop their early game with Miami (or name another P4 school) instead.

If no Cy-Hawk game (for example), because of SEC/Big10 collusion, who do Big12 and ACC teams schedule in the non-conference?

Notre Dame.

 

[ISUTex]

The details so far are that USC is refusing to extend the ND series beyond 2026 until the B10/SEC scheduling BS is worked out. Essentially the same with Iowa on their deal with ISU. Fox has got their Puppet Pettiti Boy hard at work on this.

Notre Dame–USC Football Series in Jeopardy, But Irish Looking to Extend Rivalry

The 2025 game is the last in the current contract between the blueblood programs, and the Trojans offered only a one-year extension.

www.si.com

There are some big USC donors who aren't happy it.

 

[ISUTex]

No way they do more than 1 conference game between them. They’ll still all play 2 patsies.

But, the scheduling agreement would essentially lock out their ability to play ND or anyone from the ACC or Big12. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if ND sets up an agreement to play the 2 extra Big10 teams every year.

But as bad as it seems for the ACC and Big10, it’s even worse for ND. It’s going to be hard to fill out that schedule if they are shut out from most of the Big10.

The Big 10 teams will still schedule them. Maybe ISU should schedule them.

 

[BigJCy]

 

[PickSix]

Meh. Everyone is just posturing at this point. Wake me when something is finalized.

 

[shadow]

Here is the whole interview. I thought his point on the playoff diminishing the regular season was one of the better ones.

 

[Clark]

Here is the whole interview. I thought his point on the playoff diminishing the regular season was one of the better ones.

Is it? I guess it depends on who you ask because it looked like the playoffs really enhanced the big 12's regular season last year.

 

[ClubCy]

Brice Feldman (employed by Fox) was on Ryen Rusillo’s podcast today and he was talking about USC wanting to end the yearly game against ND due to such a rigorous conference schedule and that’s why they want auto bids.

He then made a point that USC played more ranked teams against a Pac 12 schedule in 2022 than they did against their 2024 Big 10 schedule and then again more ranked teams against a PAC 12 schedule in 2023 than their 2024 Big 10 schedule.

Yet the Pac 12 needed to die and the Big 10 nerds more money.

 

[SCNCY]

Brice Feldman (employed by Fox) was on Ryen Rusillo’s podcast today and he was talking about USC wanting to end the yearly game against ND due to such a rigorous conference schedule and that’s why they want auto bids.

He then made a point that USC played more ranked teams against a Pac 12 schedule in 2022 than they did against their 2024 Big 10 schedule and then again more ranked teams against a PAC 12 schedule in 2023 than their 2024 Big 10 schedule.

Yet the Pac 12 needed to die and the Big 10 nerds more money.

Burning that part of the strategy? Disburse the playing of ranked teams to a minimum to prop up your big teams record so that it looks better?

 

[JM4CY]

Here is the whole interview. I thought his point on the playoff diminishing the regular season was one of the better ones.

I can’t take this guy seriously whatsoever.

 

[MountainManHawk]

Now that you mention it I remember seeing that the old BCS rankings wouldn’t have been very different at all from what the committee came up with so it’s maybe not as big of an issue as we all make it out to be. I just always hear everyone say that there aren’t enough games played in football for the same quality of ranking system, which makes sense to me in principle.

I did see that the SEC is going to try to push for changes in the criteria, which I imagine mean some attempt to take into account strength of schedule but it’s hard to have an opinion on it before we get details. All we know so far is they want a “selection committee criteria change”, which could mean anything but I’m sure it’s designed to benefit the SEC in some way.

Update: I think I’ve discovered what the SEC is going to push for in terms of “criteria change”. They are going to want to use ESPN’s FPI rankings the way that the basketball committee uses the NET. And then for good measure they are going to push for no auto-bids at all, just the 16 highest ranked teams.

Assuming these rankings don’t change too much by the end of the season, that should give the SEC around 10 of the 16 spots, lol.