Agree. Same with winning the basketball conf tourney.Exactly. Still a lot of value to the season by winning the conference even if you don’t bring home a natty.
Agree. Same with winning the basketball conf tourney.Exactly. Still a lot of value to the season by winning the conference even if you don’t bring home a natty.
It's rational, and its what probably 75% of CFB fans want instead of the P2 frankensteins.Look, the whole CFP product is effed up due to the oversized conferences with resulting unbalanced intra-conference scheduling, some conferences playing 9 conference games vs 8, and billions of dollars in media rights revenues being left on the table, You can call the Cody Campbell solution as "cute" but it is clearly the only rational way to fix the sport to the financial (and fairness) benefit of all P4 and G5 schools and for fan engagement/enjoyment as well.
Agree, but NOT until their contract concludes with the B12. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot, if they play that obvious card now.If and ESPN generated metric is going to be used by the committee, then we need to take 2 auto bids.
ESPN will use that to keep the Big 12 out.
You keep saying the "billions left on the table". Where is that coming from? There will be many more CFP games in the $10MM+ viewers, which are what make all the money. You say they're going to go head-to-head with the NFL. Why? There are plenty of time slots to go around. Are you saying people will just get disinterested? Last year was the highest ranking/revenue of any season. And the SEC and B12 have multiple times more revenue than ACC or B12. Now there are several more games between high profile teams than there ever were before. Look at the matchups those two conferences can throw out every weekend.Last year's CCGs did have more meaning relative to CFP qualification since 3 of the CCG winners received byes. In a 16 team playoff, that advantage is presumably removed and winning the CCG has significantly less impact relative to CFP qualification but would continue have an impact on CFP seeding.
Look, the whole CFP product is effed up due to the oversized conferences with resulting unbalanced intra-conference scheduling, some conferences playing 9 conference games vs 8, and billions of dollars in media rights revenues being left on the table, You can call the Cody Campbell solution as "cute" but it is clearly the only rational way to fix the sport to the financial (and fairness) benefit of all P4 and G5 schools and for fan engagement/enjoyment as well.
You keep saying the "billions left on the table". Where is that coming from? There will be many more CFP games in the $10MM+ viewers, which are what make all the money. You say they're going to go head-to-head with the NFL. Why? There are plenty of time slots to go around. Are you saying people will just get disinterested? Last year was the highest ranking/revenue of any season. And the SEC and B12 have multiple times more revenue than ACC or B12. Now there are several more games between high profile teams than there ever were before. Look at the matchups those two conferences can throw out every weekend.
Look at the top 25 here. 21 are in the SEC or B10. Of the other 4, one is Notre Dame. One is Stanford, but only because they double dipped on the PAC12 buyout and the ACC distribution.
....and JP recently referenced in a recent interview how the lack of media rights aggregation and bidding them out NFL style is costing the sport millions in media rights revenues:You keep saying the "billions left on the table". Where is that coming from?
He’s trying to sell his point. Of course he’s going to say that. I just don’t think it’s logical that “billions are being left on the table”.....and JP recently referenced in a recent interview how the lack of media rights aggregation and bidding them out NFL style is costing the sport millions in media rights revenues:
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Is college football undervalued? America's second-most popular game still leaving billions on the table
Ripe for venture capitalists and mega streaming deals down the line, college football's bottom line is getting astronomicalwww.cbssports.com
Assume you mean Fuller? It’s from required AEDA reporting.Any idea where this guy is getting his stats from? There is no source listed and some of these numbers are way different than other reporting I’ve seen.
Edit* not disagreeing with it’s anything you were saying btw just wondering where he is getting that info
It's highly logical given the existing ESPN and Fox stranglehold on the sport, existing bifurcation of conference TV rights and ESPN being the sole bidder for the recent CFP extension. Hell, PE isn't even needed to get those billions.He’s trying to sell his point. Of course he’s going to say that. I just don’t think it’s logical that “billions are being left on the table”.
....and JP recently referenced in a recent interview how the lack of media rights aggregation and bidding them out NFL style is costing the sport millions in media rights revenues:
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Is college football undervalued? America's second-most popular game still leaving billions on the table
Ripe for venture capitalists and mega streaming deals down the line, college football's bottom line is getting astronomicalwww.cbssports.com
You keep saying the "billions left on the table". Where is that coming from? There will be many more CFP games in the $10MM+ viewers, which are what make all the money. You say they're going to go head-to-head with the NFL. Why? There are plenty of time slots to go around. Are you saying people will just get disinterested? Last year was the highest ranking/revenue of any season. And the SEC and B12 have multiple times more revenue than ACC or B12. Now there are several more games between high profile teams than there ever were before. Look at the matchups those two conferences can throw out every weekend.
Look at the top 25 here. 21 are in the SEC or B10. Of the other 4, one is Notre Dame. One is Stanford, but only because they double dipped on the PAC12 buyout and the ACC distribution.
ISU reported in the Register that their budget was $115.6 million, the article is dated 2/6/24, so we are a little higher than what this is reporting. $115.6 was a record for ISU and increase of 3.9% over the year before.Trying to do so research on this to determine what goes into it. Looks like revenue is one of the line items that has to be report as part of the Act. If this is accurate….its effing embarrassing. The biggest difference would be media dollars between conference, donations, Merchandise sales, ticket sales, etc.; what else? Last among P4 and more fairly, our peers.…
Saw a really interesting clip recently. What we should really be asking is, "What is the net income?" My guess is Iowa State would be much better positioned because of JP's accounting prowess.Trying to do so research on this to determine what goes into it. Looks like revenue is one of the line items that has to be report as part of the Act. If this is accurate….its effing embarrassing. The biggest difference would be media dollars between conference, donations, Merchandise sales, ticket sales, etc.; what else? Last among P4 and more fairly, our peers.…
I disagree with the value of winning the conference bball tourney. The regular season title is a more meaningful accomplishment in P4 hoops.Agree. Same with winning the basketball conf tourney.
Maybe. but it is a really fun party and a great event. Hope it stays in KC forever.I disagree with the value of winning the conference bball tourney. The regular season title is a more meaningful accomplishment in P4 hoops.
I would bet there is no P4 fanbase in the country that values the tourney title as much as ISU. Our overperformance in that event and a general affinity in our fanbase for partying in KC for a long weekend overly inflates our view of the value of P4 conference tourneys.
He’s trying to sell his point. Of course he’s going to say that. I just don’t think it’s logical that “billions are being left on the table”.
I disagree with the value of winning the conference bball tourney. The regular season title is a more meaningful accomplishment in P4 hoops.
I would bet there is no P4 fanbase in the country that values the tourney title as much as ISU. Our overperformance in that event and a general affinity in our fanbase for partying in KC for a long weekend overly inflates our view of the value of P4 conference tourneys.
I bet the person he was responding to, if you read that far.Who is overvaluing it? It’s a fun time and winning it is a ton of fun. Very rarely do I see anybody claim it’s more than that.
Pate had a pod I saw yesterday talking about the 4-4-2-2 format. He generally doesn't want playoff expansion, but he did note that if you do go to 14 or 16, then he actually liked the auto bids, but only if the P2 added what amount to play-in games during CCG week.
So the P2 would have their 1-2 play a CCG but each would get 1 of the 4 conference autobids. But then the 3-6 and 4-5 place teams would also play (at the 3/4 seed field) and the winners would get the remaining 2 autobids. His argument is that is 2 more really good FB games to enjoy, and less arguing about who gets picked - your record gets you to 3/4/5/6 and then you gotta win a game. Essentially, its a play in game and you've expanded the playoffs even more lol.
The ACC and Big12 with only 2 autobids doesn't fit as well. No additional CCG really needed. Maybe you'd make the regular season champ the conf champ, and have 2-3 play for the 2nd bid? IDK. He didn't have much for that. He was more focused on the P2 of course.
Honestly, I don't think any of this CFP format stuff matters much in the face of all the other problems (money, NIL, unlimited free agency, tampering, et al) facing CFB.