I don’t know, the SEC also has 3-4 teams that play non-conference rivals every year.The Big Ten only has two more teams and Iowa is enough of a name where they aren't getting left out.
That's Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Minnesota territory. I'd add Northwestern but they're going to match them with Vandy every year if this happens.
Good luck convincing those teams to sign up for that every year. You will get the home and homes like you already do now but even if that did happen it would be more mixed then you think.Perhaps overlaps with some other comments (doing some catch-up), SEC isn't going to have its most "prominent" members schedule just any-old Big Ten opponent, it'd be aiming for MAJOR matchups. George-Ohio State, Alabama-Michigan, LSU-Penn State, Florida-USC, Texas-Oregon.
Occasionally there will be some rotation among some of those and not every team in each conference will be "up" at the same time. "Others" might be Vandy vs. Purdue, Kentucky-IU (actually not a bad idea geographically).
The SEC coaches voiced strongly that they wanted a model with five automatic qualifiers and 11 at-larges, with a preference to stay at an eight-game league schedule.
The coaching perspective hints at potential roadblocks for playoff expansion, as there's sentiment that other leagues wouldn't want the playoff to grow -- especially all the way from 12 to 16 teams -- if the SEC didn't go to a nine-game conference schedule.
My thoughts: Mandatory nine-game schedule. Or, why not all conferences play eight game to stay on an equal basis?
Like basketball, why not look at non-con strength.
Going by rankings with an already bias voters is nuts.
The details so far are that USC is refusing to extend the ND series beyond 2026 until the B10/SEC scheduling BS is worked out. Essentially the same with Iowa on their deal with ISU. Fox has got their Puppet Pettiti Boy hard at work on this.You realize that even in this hypothetical situation that we don’t have details of yet nothing is stopping those games from taking place.
Puppets!The details so far are that USC is refusing to extend the ND series beyond 2026 until the B10/SEC scheduling BS is worked out. Essentially the same with Iowa on their deal with ISU. Fox has got their Puppet Pettiti Boy hard at work on this.
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Notre Dame–USC Football Series in Jeopardy, But Irish Looking to Extend Rivalry
The 2025 game is the last in the current contract between the blueblood programs, and the Trojans offered only a one-year extension.www.si.com
I agree, I don't think that many games would occur every season, might be only a couple of marquees, but likely to involve quite a few of those programs.Good luck convincing those teams to sign up for that every year. You will get the home and homes like you already do now but even if that did happen it would be more mixed then you think.
There is no law or rule. But there is logic. The goal is making money. And the best way to do that is winning and making the playoffs. And that system doesn't really value strength of schedule. The SEC and B1G already know this and have gamed the system accordingly. The SEC with their 8 game schedule, and their FCS games in November. Or the B1G with their laughably lopsided divisions protecting their champ from a title game loss.You realize that even in this hypothetical situation that we don’t have details of yet nothing is stopping those games from taking place.
The big ten doesn’t have divisions any more as a heads up and strength of schedule really does still matter and will matter even more moving to 16 teams.There is no law or rule. But there is logic. The goal is making money. And the best way to do that is winning and making the playoffs. And that system doesn't really value strength of schedule. The SEC and B1G already know this and have gamed the system accordingly. The SEC with their 8 game schedule, and their FCS games in November. Or the B1G with their laughably lopsided divisions protecting their champ from a title game loss.
Scheduling 9 league games, an SEC/B1G game, and then another P4 rivalry game would put a team at a scheduling disadvantage to make the playoffs. Most, if not all, will walk away from these rivalry games in that case.
And it isn't a hypothetical. We have already seen rivalries stop when teams changed conferences. Nebraska and Colorado, KU Mizzou, UT and AtM. All these schools chose to pad the schedule over maintaining the rivalry when the time came.
It has much more so to do with enhancing Fox's regular season schedule and making a lame attempt to extort ND to the B10. The "playoff picture" issue is secondary. And given ND's recent appearance of alignment with the B12/ACC, they likely will tell USC, Puppet Boy Pettiti and Fox to go eff themselves.Puppets!
Actually it has to do with the playoff picture as your own article pointed out and legit doesn’t mention a single thing about SEC scheduling but good job making up points out of thin air. Also like I have said multipule times now, it’s up to the school. If USC wants to continue to play ND they will play ND like they mentioned in the article even if it means moving the game up the schedule. It’s their call.
PUPPETS!!!!!
Sure sure, you legit post an article saying the very things you are saying aren’t happening to make your case, weird tactic but why not.It has much more so to do with enhancing Fox's regular season schedule and making a lame attempt to extort ND to the B10. The "playoff picture" issue is secondary. And given ND's recent appearance of alignment with the B12/ACC, they likely will tell USC, Puppet Boy Pettiti and Fox to go eff themselves.
You realize that even in this hypothetical situation that we don’t have details of yet nothing is stopping those games from taking place.
Agreed, 10 seems like a good number which is 1-2 more then they play right nowNew to SEC football?
Nobody in that league is jumping feet-first into a schedule with 11 P4 teams.
The B1G chose to stack their divisions to protect their title contenders. The SEC chooses to schedule FCS schools in November to protect their contenders. Schools have chosen to abandon long standing rivalries to keep their schedule softer to protect their post season prospects. And you magically think now all these schools are going to choose to find a way to keep those games when they are already locked in to 10 other P4 games a year? Seriously?The big ten doesn’t have divisions any more as a heads up and strength of schedule really does still matter and will matter even more moving to 16 teams.
Also as I’ve said multiple times those schools choose to stop those games, it has nothing to do with scheduling agreements which is the crux of what people are taking about.
We are also very new to the expanded playoff picture, it’s a little different than the 4 team playoff we had for years. Picking up the random loss for a power team isn’t nearly as meaningful as it was.
I’m not sure how you think the big ten divisions protected anyone but putting the 3/4 best teams in the same division so they gave each other loses, that’s the first time I have heard that logic.The B1G chose to stack their divisions to protect their title contenders. The SEC chooses to schedule FCS schools in November to protect their contenders. Schools have chosen to abandon long standing rivalries to keep their schedule softer to protect their post season prospects. And you magically think now all these schools are going to choose to find a way to keep those games when they are already locked in to 10 other P4 games a year? Seriously?
And then you want to top that off with SOS matters? And what basis do you have for that? The committee has a long established track record of shifting criteria to favor the big brands they want. When they want Ohio State instead of Baylor/TCU it is the ever so important 13th data point. But if Georgia goes out and blows the title game, you can't punish a team for losing a title game. Or maybe because OSU passes the eye test, we will ignore the fact they didn't even play the title game. Or when FSU has a perfect record and a title and a top tier non con strength of schedule we use their injured QB as justification for taking another SEC team instead. The history of the playoff selection has been anything but data driven. They don't want to look at computer metrics or SOS, they just change the story every year to get the blue bloods in that will cash them the biggest checks.
You are generally a very thoughtful poster on this site, but your B1G colored glasses continually get in the way when it comes to topics of peak B1G and SEC jackassery.
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I’m not sure how you think the big ten divisions protected anyone but putting the 3/4 best teams in the same division so they gave each other loses, that’s the first time I have heard that logic.
Yes strength of schedule matters becuase we are now in an expanded playoff of 16 teams. This isn’t a 2 team BCS or a 4 team playoff this is 16 teams where that will determine the final teams that get in and also/possibly more important seeding.
I’d agree there. College athletics programs are merely in a charade as Non Profit entities at this point.I could be wrong, but wasn’t it congress who gave the conferences more power than the NCAA? For awhile it was fine, and probably no one imagined(at the time) the financials to explode, realignment, and total lopsided payouts and corruption.
I’d be completely fine with congress stepping back in, and stripping that power and giving it back to the NCAA(or something new) to govern all and control all media rights and what teams are in what conferences.
Not going to happen, but that’s how it should be.