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Oh, what lovely rumors you have.
All the better to DERP you with, my dear!
I don't suppose you have any actual examples of people being let go without cause or "Yes Men" being appointed? Didn't think so.
RIP, Veishea
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Oh, what lovely rumors you have.
All the better to DERP you with, my dear!
I don't suppose you have any actual examples of people being let go without cause or "Yes Men" being appointed? Didn't think so.
I was in bed at 10pm the night of the riot. I was then told the following day by a fellow student/coworker "Dude, it's Veishea! How were you not ********* on Welch!?"
That right there is the problem. An incredibly large number of ISU students have/had no idea what the celebration was intended for, and considered it a week long drunk fest in which they can bring their friends from out of town and show off "how hard Ames parties".
I'm not sure what else could have been done to save it, but until students realize that it's not always about getting drunk and rioting (which has been imprinted into ISU student DNA for years), then there's no reason to have it.
That right there is the problem. An incredibly large number of ISU students have/had no idea what the celebration was intended for, and considered it a week long drunk fest in which they can bring their friends from out of town and show off "how hard Ames parties".
I'm not sure what else could have been done to save it, but until students realize that it's not always about getting drunk and rioting (which has been imprinted into ISU student DNA for years), then there's no reason to have it.
people told me the exact same thing whether at class to people i barely talked to or friends. That is the problem right there.
I thought eight police were working that night. A hundred people would be a mob to eight people manning the city.
CycloneErik
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It's generally difficult to clear out state employees with decades of service, too, even though someone through out a rumor to that effect.
The majority of P&S employees at ISU are at-will employees, meaning there is no guarantee that their employment be continued beyond this minute.
If I was not currently volunteering at the Iowa State Fair and not on my phone, I would find and post the link to that description.
Well Mr. Janny, since you asked...
Dan Saftig is someone that comes to mind. Below is the Ames Trib article about his firing.
http://amestrib.com/sections/news/a...undation-president-paid-400000-severance.html
As a family friend of the Saftigs from this was obviously upsetting. To an extent I can't blame Leath for wanting to use his own people, but at the same time, you can't really blame anyone who knew Dan Saftig for having beef with Leath. Just go to the Gilbert School district and ask around. I remember the day news got around than Dan Saftig was being pushed out by Leath. Students and teachers were in disbelief. Huge bummer for the Gilbert school district as the lost one of their most valuable families, and a huge loss to ISU considering what Dan had done for the school. Not surprisingly, because of Dan's reputation he was immediately offered jobs from major schools, and eventually took a lead roll with Arizona State's fundraising foundation. But the quote from the article below really makes me wonder why Leath wouldn't have kept him.
https://asunews.asu.edu/20130904-saftig-foundation
Directly from the article above.
Saftig’s focus on major university fundraising efforts is familiar territory. He introduced “Campaign Iowa State” upon his arrival in Ames, with a goal of generating $800 million, that was launched in 2007. The campaign raised $867 million in gifts and commitments, realizing more philanthropic support than in the previous 25 years, and raising 30 percent more than two previous campaigns combined.
“In addition to being the absolute best fundraising professional I know, Dan is a great leader,” said former Iowa State University President Gregory L. Geoffroy. “He took a fundraising foundation (at Iowa State) and transformed it into a high-performing organization with a superb team of professionals who loved working under his leadership."
Dan Saftig is someone that comes to mind. Below is the Ames Trib article about his firing.
http://amestrib.com/sections/news/a...undation-president-paid-400000-severance.html
As a family friend of the Saftigs from this was obviously upsetting. To an extent I can't blame Leath for wanting to use his own people, but at the same time, you can't really blame anyone who knew Dan Saftig for having beef with Leath. Just go to the Gilbert School district and ask around. I remember the day news got around than Dan Saftig was being pushed out by Leath. Students and teachers were in disbelief. Huge bummer for the Gilbert school district as the lost one of their most valuable families, and a huge loss to ISU considering what Dan had done for the school. Not surprisingly, because of Dan's reputation he was immediately offered jobs from major schools, and eventually took a lead roll with Arizona State's fundraising foundation. But the quote from the article below really makes me wonder why Leath wouldn't have kept him.
https://asunews.asu.edu/20130904-saftig-foundation
Directly from the article above.
Saftig’s focus on major university fundraising efforts is familiar territory. He introduced “Campaign Iowa State” upon his arrival in Ames, with a goal of generating $800 million, that was launched in 2007. The campaign raised $867 million in gifts and commitments, realizing more philanthropic support than in the previous 25 years, and raising 30 percent more than two previous campaigns combined.
“In addition to being the absolute best fundraising professional I know, Dan is a great leader,” said former Iowa State University President Gregory L. Geoffroy. “He took a fundraising foundation (at Iowa State) and transformed it into a high-performing organization with a superb team of professionals who loved working under his leadership."
Leath did shake things up quite a bit when he came in with employees, although some of it was promoting from within too. Also, don't take my defense of Leath on the VEISHEA decision as saying that Leath has had a great presidency so far. He has done some great things, but there have been things he has handled very poorly. The Harkin Institute debacle comes to mind (one of ISU's prominent alumni gave his papers to Drake instead of ISU). There was politics on both sides at play on that issue, but I wish they could have worked something out so that Harkin's papers could have stayed at ISU.
He promoted Wickert from Engineering Dean to Vice President and Provost and brought in a top figure in the University of North Carolina system (where Leath was previously Vice president for Research) to be his chief of staff (Miles Lackey).
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Wickert applied for the provost position, so Leath had no choice but to give it to him or he would have left as engineering dean for the first good job. Wickert wants to be a college president someday - hope after he gets to be one he eventually comes back to ISU as Prez as he is a very dynamic guy.
I didn't realize we had so many riot control experts contributing here. Maybe some of you should join the force or start an awareness campaign or do something constructive other than castigate every single person who didn't have the good sense to stay out of Campustown.
I've never been in Campustown during a riot, and other than the embarrassment of being associated with a university that some people associate with rioting, I have no dog in this fight. I just don't understand why some of you have such a broad definition of "involvement" in a riot. I've outlined several reasons why people in Campustown, even during a riot, might not be complicit. But go ahead, group them all together.
