Report: T.J. Otzelberger headed for Iowa State

[jmb]

Great, we'll get an 11% mail-in rebate on our next coaching contract.

This is the funniest post in the thread. Kudos.

 

[Cyclonepride]

If TJ is ultimately not hired I think we might be able to look back to the UNLV article as the primary reason. It was likely very embarrassing that this appeared to be a done deal so quickly. I imagine JP might now be slowing things down and presenting a pool of candidates to the President. It would not go over well to the larger University if it appears there was absolutely no attempt made to consider a diverse pool because most hiring situations in higher education require that there be an opportunity to consider a broad pool of candidates. Ultimately, TJ will probably be hired. But the timing of that UNLV article likely made JP at least show that he had considered other possibilities.

Seems like you are building an assumption on top of an assumption here.

 

[jsb]

Caller and Murph and Andy bagging on TJ, caller "all unlv does is shoot 3's and play little defense." He basically described isu bball under Fred.

Except win . Kidding!

 

[marothisu]

This thread is now completely off the rails.

It's about to come back full circle to JP talking about Financials being down, and ways that make sense to front buyouts after someone claims they can't pay various money.

 

[jcisuclones]

Great, we'll get an 11% mail-in rebate on our next coaching contract.

Speaking of which, I sent one in a few rebate receipts last week, and already got them in the mail today! I did the same last fall and didn't get them until late January.

 

[cytor]

If ISU does hire TJ................ Can he bring about 60,000 tickets with him to distribute to ISU fans for the game out in Vegas in Sept?

 

[jmb]

If TJ is ultimately not hired I think we might be able to look back to the UNLV article as the primary reason. It was likely very embarrassing that this appeared to be a done deal so quickly. I imagine JP might now be slowing things down and presenting a pool of candidates to the President. It would not go over well to the larger University if it appears there was absolutely no attempt made to consider a diverse pool because most hiring situations in higher education require that there be an opportunity to consider a broad pool of candidates. Ultimately, TJ will probably be hired. But the timing of that UNLV article likely made JP at least show that he had considered other possibilities.

I wondered if it was a trial balloon to see how fan base reacted.

 

[tim_redd]

Speaking of which, I sent one in a few rebate receipts last week, and already got them in the mail today! I did the same last fall and didn't get them until late January.

I never get mine, but for some reason i get them for a guy on the other side town. I would look him up and see if he gets mine, but his rebates are bigger...

 

[dtISU]

Great, we'll get an 11% mail-in rebate on our next coaching contract.

In-store credit only.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I wondered if it was a trial balloon to see how fan base reacted.

That would be about the worst idea ever.

 

[isucy86]

If TJ is ultimately not hired I think we might be able to look back to the UNLV article as the primary reason. It was likely very embarrassing that this appeared to be a done deal so quickly. I imagine JP might now be slowing things down and presenting a pool of candidates to the President. It would not go over well to the larger University if it appears there was absolutely no attempt made to consider a diverse pool because most hiring situations in higher education require that there be an opportunity to consider a broad pool of candidates. Ultimately, TJ will probably be hired. But the timing of that UNLV article likely made JP at least show that he had considered other possibilities.

A lot of people could have been motivated:

• UNLV AD could have leaked. If TJ is the guy, then they negotiate from a stronger place. Especially if it appears he was the only serious candidate.
• UNLV employee could have leaked to damage TJ's standing as head coach. UNLV fans will question TJ's loyalty to move on after only 2 years. Also, if TJ remains coach, it will make recruiting harder.
• Someone at ISU could have leaked. If someone was very pro-TJ they could have leaked to reduce the number of candidates. If a P5 head coach was interested, they might be less likely to throw their name in the hat if the search is basically over. Also a current coach would be concerned their name could be leaked.
• TJ's people could have leaked. Many of same reasons as above.

TJ wouldn't be at the top of my list. But if he is the guy, I would rather have the process wrapped up in the first couple days vs. extending out a week or 2. All Jamie would have to say is "TJ has been at ISU over 10 years and during that time I observed one of the sharpest young coaches in the country. Yada, Yada, Yada. "

Like any job hire, having a personal knowledge of a candidate can go a long way.

 

[CascadeClone]

This thread is now completely off the rails.

You are about 1400 posts late...

 

[Lineup]

we just keep hiring not so successful basketball coaches

 

[cycloneworld]

Does anyone consider that in the age of Zoom etc that some of the interviews could have gone on a while ago when the seasons were still going on and maybe this sped up the process?

Probably depends who it is but many of the coaches aren't going to divert attention away from conference tournament prep or NCAA tournament prep to interview unless they were super interested. Agent discussions most certainly could have happened though.

 

[jmb]

That would be about the worst idea ever.

Didn't say it was a good idea. Just said I wonder if that is what happened.

 

[Cy Hard]

I guess it’s been long enough but told they had lunch together today in an appropriate themed restaurant for St. Patrick’s Day. Doubt TJ’s here for spring break.

 

[CyBobby]

Well, if this is true, and I think it’s likely that it is, I will absolutely support TJ and be hopeful.

I guess what disappoints me is the appearance or suggestion by this hire that after years of work and some success with Cyclone athletics, Iowa State is still not much of a destination that would attract coaches. McD was local. Fred had a history with the school. TJ has a history. Maybe Jamie sees that connection as a way to get a hometown discount. I appreciate JP’s fiscal responsibility, but it doesn’t yield a lot of excitement. On the other hand, Texas spends an inordinate amount on coaches with largely the same or less outcome as Iowa State, so I guess I prefer Jamie’s strategy.

I was wrong about Fred’s hire being a bad idea back in the day. I’m looking forward to being even more wrong about TJ’s hiring (hopefully).

I am in the same boat as you regarding Fred's hire....but it worked out great until Fred left for Chi Town....I hope TJ will be another Matt Campbell.

 

[cytor]

A lot of people could have been motivated:

• UNLV AD could have leaked. If TJ is the guy, then they negotiate from a stronger place. Especially if it appears he was the only serious candidate.
• UNLV employee could have leaked to damage TJ's standing as head coach. UNLV fans will question TJ's loyalty to move on after only 2 years. Also, if TJ remains coach, it will make recruiting harder.
• Someone at ISU could have leaked. If someone was very pro-TJ they could have leaked to reduce the number of candidates. If a P5 head coach was interested, they might be less likely to throw their name in the hat if the search is basically over. Also a current coach would be concerned their name could be leaked.
• TJ's people could have leaked. Many of same reasons as above.

TJ wouldn't be at the top of my list. But if he is the guy, I would rather have the process wrapped up in the first couple days vs. extending out a week or 2. All Jamie would have to say is "TJ has been at ISU over 10 years and during that time I observed one of the sharpest young coaches in the country. Yada, Yada, Yada. "

Like any job hire, having a personal knowledge of a candidate can go a long way.

I read the word "leak" so many times in your post that I now have to go to the bathroom.

 

[Statefan10]

I guess it’s been long enough but told they had lunch together today in an appropriate themed restaurant for St. Patrick’s Day. Doubt TJ’s here for spring break.

In Ames?

 

[derpyherky]

TJ spotted at Patty's drinking green beers with Pollard!