Report: T.J. Otzelberger headed for Iowa State

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We brought in a fresh face with Prohm. So bringing in a fresh face is not necessarily a good thing.

TJ likes to play an up tempo game like Hoiberg with spacing. Cyclone Fans love that style. TJ has recruited and signed some of Iowa State’s best ever players to come be Cyclones. So the recruiting aspect is one where TJ would have highest marks. So the belief is TJ will get players. Now it comes down to X’s and O’s. TJ had good players at SDSU. TJ also won at SDSU. Two Conference Tourney Championships. Two Regular Season Championships. Two NCAA bids. So TJ did get results. UNLV has been mixed results. First year resulted in the most Mountain West Conference Wins in 12 years. This year has been a struggle. UNLV has been inconsistent throughout and their early season struggles of a 1-6 start and TJ catching Covid19. The lone bright spot was the victory over Kansas State, in Manhattan.

I have faith that TJ will be able to recruit players. With the resources and contacts he has I have little doubt. I also trust that he will bring a great Staff. After that it all comes down to TJ. And the reports I have gotten from those who do know TJ is that he is very driven. Knows his weaknesses and tries to hire those who will strengthen those weaknesses. In the end it will all come down to whether TJ is successful. TJ is getting the opportunity. IMO he has earned that opportunity. But now he must prove that our faith and trust have been well placed. His success is in his hands.

True. I am not so high on your long list of positives. But he will have a chance to earn it.

And, unlike probably 70% of the posters in this thread both pro TJ and against, I’ll be at all the home games cheering them on.
 

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We brought in a fresh face with Prohm. So bringing in a fresh face is not necessarily a good thing.

TJ likes to play an up tempo game like Hoiberg with spacing. Cyclone Fans love that style. TJ has recruited and signed some of Iowa State’s best ever players to come be Cyclones. So the recruiting aspect is one where TJ would have highest marks. So the belief is TJ will get players. Now it comes down to X’s and O’s. TJ had good players at SDSU. TJ also won at SDSU. Two Conference Tourney Championships. Two Regular Season Championships. Two NCAA bids. So TJ did get results. UNLV has been mixed results. First year resulted in the most Mountain West Conference Wins in 12 years. This year has been a struggle. UNLV has been inconsistent throughout and their early season struggles of a 1-6 start and TJ catching Covid19. The lone bright spot was the victory over Kansas State, in Manhattan.

I have faith that TJ will be able to recruit players. With the resources and contacts he has I have little doubt. I also trust that he will bring a great Staff. After that it all comes down to TJ. And the reports I have gotten from those who do know TJ is that he is very driven. Knows his weaknesses and tries to hire those who will strengthen those weaknesses. In the end it will all come down to whether TJ is successful. TJ is getting the opportunity. IMO he has earned that opportunity. But now he must prove that our faith and trust have been well placed. His success is in his hands.
I agree with this. Like Hoiberg when he first got to ISU, hiring an experienced X's and O's guy will be key for TJ. He probably was able to get away with it to a certain extent at SDSU because he could recruit superior talent.
 

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It’s been asked and I’d say there is a good chance Caleb transfers back.

How often does that happen?

Was he one whose parent or something ripped ISU post-transfer or am I thinking of something else?

Would be pretty eye opening to see him come back and flourish/be allowed to open and play like he can.
 

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Nate Wolters for SDSU was just like Mike Daum and he played his last year in 2013.. He played 5 seasons in the NBA.

Don’t get me wrong, Daum was good, but SDSU has had similar talent.

Wolters played 4 years in the NBA, not 5. His final 3 years he played in 11 games, 10 games, and 5 games. He played 267 minutes in 3 seasons, which amounts to 5.5 total full games over a 3 year period.

Making the NBA is extremely tough, obviously but let's not equate basically a 2 way player for most of his career with someone playing in nearly every game over a season.
 
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It’s been asked and I’d say there is a good chance Caleb transfers back.
I am hoping that he retains Jayden Nunn and brings Nunn's teammate who he was recruiting to UNLV. I am going to guess Hunter chooses to go somewhere else.

Roster spots as of right now:

Bolton
Johnson
Jackson
Hinton
Conditt
Foster
Harris
Dubar
Blackwell
Walker

Only 2 free spots as of right now. I am guessing we may see some transfers out though too.
 

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It humors me watching people melt down over the “process”. That’s so public school education. No one cares about the result, you must respect the process!
Unlike the results, you can actually control the process.
 

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If it's TJ, so be it. I dont know enough about college basketball to know if he is a good or bad hire, but hiring a coach because he may have been the right fit 6 years ago, doesn't make him the right fit now.

It is one thing to advance at your job and maintain what you helped build, but a complete rebuild is different than continuing an existing culture. The older players who help pass on the culture to the younger players are gone. We are a different job now than we were, but he is also a different coach now than he was. I like that he went and got experience as a head coach, but I don't know if those extra data points paint him in the best light. Sdsu he was successful, UNLV has had lesser results thus far, but i think you need more than 2 years to say if he was a failure or not.
 

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How often does that happen?

Was he one whose parent or something ripped ISU post-transfer or am I thinking of something else?

Would be pretty eye opening to see him come back and flourish/be allowed to open and play like he can.
Honestly I can’t think of another time an athlete has transferred back to the school they originally left.

And yeah it’d be cool to see him in another light. I’m assuming a lot of people didn’t get to see him play this year, but he did get better from last year. He still looks a bit awkward out on the floor, but hopefully that could change with having a true PG and him being another year older.

He shot the 3 a lot better though. 25% to 34%.
 

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Wolters played 4 years in the NBA, not 5. His final 3 years he played in 11 games, 10 games, and 5 games. He played 267 minutes in 3 seasons, which amounts to 5.5 total full games over a 3 year period.

Making the NBA is extremely tough, obviously but let's not equate basically a 2 way player for most of his career with someone playing in nearly every game over a season.
Yeah that wasn’t my point. I was saying Daum was not the first NBA talent SDSU has had in a long time. I wasn’t trying to make Wolters out to be an NBA all star.
 
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I am hoping that he retains Jayden Nunn and brings Nunn's teammate who he was recruiting to UNLV. I am going to guess Hunter chooses to go somewhere else.

Roster spots as of right now:

Bolton
Johnson
Jackson
Hinton
Conditt
Foster
Harris
Dubar
Blackwell
Walker

Only 2 free spots as of right now. I am guessing we may see some transfers out though too.
I think there is a far better chance we retain Hunter than get Kaluma from UNLV but who knows.
 

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True. After listening to CW and Blum's podcast, I am a bit more hopeful.

I think if TJ can recruit similar to Prohm, but be better at player retention and roster management, that could be a recipe for success.
I think his success will depend on who he hires as assistant coaches. Hoiberg has fantastic assistants in both X's and O's and recruiting. Bobby Lutz, Doc Sadler, Otzelberger, Henry were all really good. Then you had Abdelmassih recruiting transfers. Those guys all had/have experience at other P6 programs. Some of them had head coaching experience as well. Prohm's assistant coaches sucked once Otzelberger left. He was too loyal to those guys.

James Kane, Williams Small and Daniyal Robinson have never been assistants at the P6 level outside of Iowa State.
 
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Sports talent in Vegas > Sports talent in Des Moines....

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