This argument reminds me of this lmao. I love niche internet forums and the passion found thereinMath is hard for some, I get it.
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This argument reminds me of this lmao. I love niche internet forums and the passion found thereinMath is hard for some, I get it.
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No not really, but when you just make up the numbers like you are, anything is possible. No links to where you are coming up with the data, just your opinion which article after article disputes.Math is hard for some, I get it.
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That's a good one.If they would just start an hour later, it would be a Saturday game.
Serious question, what happens when FSU, Clemson and North Carolina win their cases and the ACC implodes? The SEC and Big 10 says nah, we fine, and they don’t find a home there. Would the Big 12 be able to renegotiate the contract with ESPN/Fox to push per team payout up to say $50 million if they can add the premier teams from the ACC? I’m thinking FSU/Clemson/UNC/Duke. If I’m Yormark I’m in the ear of every ACC president and AD and I’d have a signed agreement in place with the networks that says, if we add so and so the increase is this. If we add another so and so the increase is this. Anyway, I hope this will go down. 3 power conferences and ISU has a seat at the table with revenue closer to equal.
I am not sure FSU, Clemson, UNC would be pushing as hard as they are to end the GOR if they haven't already gotten confirmation they will be in the SEC or Big Ten. However there are solid ACC teams after those 3 who will not go to Big Ten or SEC that the Big 12 can then bring over.Serious question, what happens when FSU, Clemson and North Carolina win their cases and the ACC implodes? The SEC and Big 10 says nah, we fine, and they don’t find a home there. Would the Big 12 be able to renegotiate the contract with ESPN/Fox to push per team payout up to say $50 million if they can add the premier teams from the ACC? I’m thinking FSU/Clemson/UNC/Duke. If I’m Yormark I’m in the ear of every ACC president and AD and I’d have a signed agreement in place with the networks that says, if we add so and so the increase is this. If we add another so and so the increase is this. Anyway, I hope this will go down. 3 power conferences and ISU has a seat at the table with revenue closer to equal.
I agree, but looking at articles like the Athletic posted like week showing the B10 is already at $60 per team, and the new contract really gives them a bump the 3rd year they will be at least $70 million. If it continues as expected, they will be at the $80 to $100 million per team before the end of it in 2029. That is not including any playoff shares the conference will get and everyone agrees that the SEC and B10 have gamed the system to get most of the teams into the playoff on a yearly basis. If I was guessing I would say the two conferences will get at least 8 if not 9 teams most years.Future payout discussions are irrelevant. These things are changing every few years. So who knows what conference or our payout will be in 3 years.
Supposedly there is a clause in the contract that if we expand and if either or both current partners refuse to pay their pro rata rate for the new teams, the B12 can entertain offers from another media partner to cover that portion or add to the contract. I believe ESPN/Fox has first right of refusal and the clause is only activated if one does refuse.Serious question, what happens when FSU, Clemson and North Carolina win their cases and the ACC implodes? The SEC and Big 10 says nah, we fine, and they don’t find a home there. Would the Big 12 be able to renegotiate the contract with ESPN/Fox to push per team payout up to say $50 million if they can add the premier teams from the ACC? I’m thinking FSU/Clemson/UNC/Duke. If I’m Yormark I’m in the ear of every ACC president and AD and I’d have a signed agreement in place with the networks that says, if we add so and so the increase is this. If we add another so and so the increase is this. Anyway, I hope this will go down. 3 power conferences and ISU has a seat at the table with revenue closer to equal.
Time zones still existIf they would just start an hour later, it would be a Saturday game.
From their boards, they believe the Big 12 would be equivalent or a step down to the ACC. Benefit would be for them is that since they went all in for the lawsuit, they would need a home. We would be a short term rental with their option to continue renting as they see fit. We would get a boost in tv revenue. Any member of the Big 12 shouldn't count on that tv revenue lasting for their budget.Serious question, what happens when FSU, Clemson and North Carolina win their cases and the ACC implodes? The SEC and Big 10 says nah, we fine, and they don’t find a home there. Would the Big 12 be able to renegotiate the contract with ESPN/Fox to push per team payout up to say $50 million if they can add the premier teams from the ACC? I’m thinking FSU/Clemson/UNC/Duke. If I’m Yormark I’m in the ear of every ACC president and AD and I’d have a signed agreement in place with the networks that says, if we add so and so the increase is this. If we add another so and so the increase is this. Anyway, I hope this will go down. 3 power conferences and ISU has a seat at the table with revenue closer to equal.
From their boards, they believe the Big 12 would be equivalent or a step down to the ACC. Benefit would be for them is that since they went all in for the lawsuit, they would need a home. We would be a short term rental with their option to continue renting as they see fit. We would get a boost in tv revenue. Any member of the Big 12 shouldn't count on that tv revenue lasting for their budget.
I believe they have a gentlemen's agreement with either the Big 10 or SEC though already.
Goodbye Pac 12 network, unfortunately many didn't see you.
Why would FSU/Clemson/UNC (or other ACC team) fight to get out of the ACC to jump to the B12? Those two conferences are going to be neck-and-neck through the new B12 contract for money, and they’ll likely be on the same level from CFP money. They wouldn’t fight this fight to make a parallel move.Serious question, what happens when FSU, Clemson and North Carolina win their cases and the ACC implodes? The SEC and Big 10 says nah, we fine, and they don’t find a home there. Would the Big 12 be able to renegotiate the contract with ESPN/Fox to push per team payout up to say $50 million if they can add the premier teams from the ACC? I’m thinking FSU/Clemson/UNC/Duke. If I’m Yormark I’m in the ear of every ACC president and AD and I’d have a signed agreement in place with the networks that says, if we add so and so the increase is this. If we add another so and so the increase is this. Anyway, I hope this will go down. 3 power conferences and ISU has a seat at the table with revenue closer to equal.
Why would FSU/Clemson/UNC (or other ACC team) fight to get out of the ACC to jump to the B12? Those two conferences are going to be neck-and-neck through the new B12 contract for money, and they’ll likely be on the same level from CFP money. They wouldn’t fight this fight to make a parallel move.
There’s two differences between the conferences. First, the ACC hasn’t been picked over by the B10/SEC (aside from Maryland). Second, the B12 will run through their next media deal and probably most of the following one before the ACC gets another crack at it (assuming ESPN picks up their options).
The instability in the ACC is caused by those schools. I can’t see them picking this fight without some pretty solid assurances they’ll have a landing spot in one of the P2. Then again, maybe it’s hubris. Utah nearly missed the boat by dragging their feet on their way to the B12 while hoping for a B10 invite that nobody else thought plausible. It’s a little bit of a different situation as someone else blew up the PAC, where these schools are actively trying to be the ones to blow up their conference. Maybe they think they can force the B10 or SEC’s hand.
Grew a heart and got them at a discount.That’s kind of what Oregon and Washington did. They were close to falling further behind the other big conferences until the Big 10 grew a heart and bailed them out.
That’s one way to put it lolThat’s kind of what Oregon and Washington did. They were close to falling further behind the other big conferences until the Big 10 grew a heart and bailed them out.