Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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It is a good proposal but it isn't quite that simple. For example, there would probably be no legal basis to end NIL, which courts have ruled is an individual right of the athlete and not something that means it probably could not be collectively bargained.

You might do away with these collectives via an agreement to pay players at some point, but product endorsements and things of that type are here to stay.
Correct, unless Congress steps in.
 

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I really liked the idea that the UCLA coach was talking what they should do.
1. Break off football from the rest of sports.
2. Hire a commissioner to run the new super league that is forming.
3. Take the top 64 teams and form 8 divisions with 8 teams each, following geography as a guide.
4. Each team plays 7 games in their division, and then another 4 against another division. So, the West Coast teams play the teams from the Midwest for a 2-year cycle, then maybe the Great Lakes schools for the next 2-year cycle.
5. Each team would have one game per year to play a G5 school or someone like UNI.
6. Players get a split of the money, no more NIL, everyone gets an equal share of the TV contract and no more.
There is a lot of good ideas here. On 365 sports, the former Fox CEO said right now the problem is matchups and college football need to take a cue from the NFL and try to get something started that would allow for a "Saturday Ticket", like the "Sunday Ticket."
 
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It will be settled, and FSU will exit. Maryland sued the ACC, and ACC countersued in 2014. They settled, and Maryland went to the Big 10. That's all FSU is hoping for, with larger stakes.

But Maryland I don’t think had a GOR in their way. They just had a typical media deal with the conference that they were leaving and potential loss of conference revenue as a result.
 

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There is a lot of good ideas here. On 365 sports, the former Fox CEO said right now the problem is matchups and college football need to take a cue from the NFL and try to get something started that would allow for a "Saturday Ticket", like the "Sunday Ticket."

I’d be fine with that. I’d drop YTTV and hopefully wouldn’t be too far in the hole with that transaction.
 
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It will be settled, and FSU will exit. Maryland sued the ACC, and ACC countersued in 2014. They settled, and Maryland went to the Big 10. That's all FSU is hoping for, with larger stakes.
Times are a little different, also not sure if FSU has a safe landing place where they would get a full share. Rumors are that the big ten presidents are done with expansion until the PAC teams get settled. The SEC will have a couple schools fight to keep them out and ESPN might not agree to match the addition since they were already getting the product at a discount.
 

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There is a lot of good ideas here. On 365 sports, the former Fox CEO said right now the problem is matchups and college football need to take a cue from the NFL and try to get something started that would allow for a "Saturday Ticket", like the "Sunday Ticket."
You can already watch all the games though, that’s the whole point of Sunday ticket is it gets you the out of area games.

What they need is something like redzone
 

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Times are a little different, also not sure if FSU has a safe landing place where they would get a full share. Rumors are that the big ten presidents are done with expansion until the PAC teams get settled. The SEC will have a couple schools fight to keep them out and ESPN might not agree to match the addition since they were already getting the product at a discount.
I think the SEC takes FSU if only to keep the BiG out of their region.
 
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You can already watch all the games though, that’s the whole point of Sunday ticket is it gets you the out of area games.

What they need is something like redzone
I think part of the reason Red Zone works so well in the NFL is because all the fantasy football.

I think a CFB Redzone could work, but may not have as much draw as the NFL, at least currently, as there is not near the fantasy play in college.

I think with the ESPN+ and similar services we are already at a point where we are paying for a service similar to Redzone, just not all in one place, at this point.
 

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LOL. That is a bold take coming from VT. A school which will need to be anchored to Virginia in order to get into any other conference besides the Big 12 should the ACC explode.
Virginia Tech has been on the outside for most of their history. A Southern Independent at the lower end of the totem pole, then the Big East, and finally the ACC as their high water mark. When I was a kid in the 70s, Virginia Tech (V.P.I.) was one of Alabama's gimme games the Tide played. It was an embarrassing OOC game. All of the games but one (1969 @ Blacksburg) were played in Birmingham or Tuscaloosa.
 
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You can already watch all the games though, that’s the whole point of Sunday ticket is it gets you the out of area games.

What they need is something like redzone
Right you can already watch all the games and most games with regular cable (or equivalent), that's why they
need the Saturday ticket. So they can monetize it even more. If it's not in your market, you have to pay for it, out the nose.
 
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Right you can already watch all the games and most games with regular cable (or equivalent), that's why they
need the Saturday ticket. So they can monetize it even more. If it's not in your market, you have to pay for it, out the nose.
That’s not the way that works
 

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There is a lot of good ideas here. On 365 sports, the former Fox CEO said right now the problem is matchups and college football need to take a cue from the NFL and try to get something started that would allow for a "Saturday Ticket", like the "Sunday Ticket."

I heard the same interview with Bob Thompson who worked at Fox Sports. Another interesting thing he said was he believed that North Carolina and Virginia would be picked by the Big 10 before Florida State. The Baylor boys at 365 have been the best place to go for information on this.
 

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That’s not the way that works
Oh really?! so NFL fans can watch games out of their market?.. NO they can't, they have to have the Sunday ticket, and its not cheap. The idea is to do the same for college, if you want to make sure you can watch your favorite team, and they could be out of your market, you'd have to buy the Saturday ticket for the season. MORE $$$ What are you not getting?
 
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That’s not the way that works

I think the point is that as these contracts expire you retain those TV rights rather than resign with the networks. You could then sell the pooled TV games as a streaming package rather than going through ESPN and the like. Maybe sell some games to primetime TV slots, but the key is to retain the main rights to sell directly to the consumer rather than to the networks.

I don’t know if that would bring more money, but I’m sure there are people in the industry that have looked at this and would know whether this makes financial sense or not.
 

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ACC filed a suit in nc so it wont get hometowned, but that still will happen.

The Florida SCT gets the last word, not anyone else, on whether the length of the gor violates Florida public policy. I think it does imho.

you cant tie up a public university to a piss poor contract for that many years--its insane. 5 should be the max.

if the ACC wins in NC, and FSU wins in florida, good luck collecting that judgment from fsu. A judgment is a piece of paper, and i doubt the florida sct lets anyone seize FSU's bank accounts or property in excess of what it determines is within public policy of that state.

I dont believe the NC Sct could even pretend to trump the florida sct on a matter of florida law.
 

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Oh really?! so NFL fans can watch games out of their market?.. NO they can't, they have to have the Sunday ticket, and its not cheap. The idea is to do the same for college, if you want to make sure you can watch your favorite team, and they could be out of your market, you'd have to buy the Saturday ticket for the season? MORE $$$ What are you not getting?

You have to walk away from the current model where you have 20 games on TV at a time. The NFL ST works because there’s only 6 games on per week with cable.
 
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I think the point is that as these contracts expire you retain those TV rights rather than resign with the networks. You could then sell the pooled TV games as a streaming package rather than going through ESPN and the like. Maybe sell some games to primetime TV slots, but the key is to retain the main rights to sell directly to the consumer rather than to the networks.

I don’t know if that would bring more money, but I’m sure there are people in the industry that have looked at this and would know whether this makes financial sense or not.

Sounds like what the PAC would have liked to do, but we saw how that went.

College's biggest benefit is that its on OTA\Main ESPN. If they tried to take it to some kind of "sunday ticket" type setup it'd probably crater viewership (the way we see most games crater in ratings once they're off ABC\CBS\Fox\ESPN)
 

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Oh really?! so NFL fans can watch games out of their market?.. NO they can't, they have to have the Sunday ticket, and its not cheap. The idea is to do the same for college, if you want to make sure you can watch your favorite team, and they could be out of your market, you'd have to buy the Saturday ticket for the season. MORE $$$ What are you not getting?
Sigh, you’re not going to be able to take away the way it currently is now and lock it behind something like that. That’s why it’s different, Sunday ticket was created because you never had the ability to watch out of market games.
 

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