Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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Now think how we dodged the Bob Bowlsby bullet with him retiring when he did. OuT happens and Bob wants into the PAC (was an AD there, thought they were the cool kids and was panicking), they turn their noses up at us. So we have to grab 4 teams. Bob settles in, announces his retirement. big 12 hires BY and Brett comes in and says move your *** Bob I'm going to actually do something besides dunk my donut in my coffee and collect a check. He then proceeds to do what a good commissioner would do and goes on the offensive. If BB would have stayed on one more year, we could have been in some serious crap.
Had Bowlsby not added the other 4, Yormark doesn't have a solid base to start from and that's before we talk about the destabilizing of the Pac that the Big 12 had nothing to do with.
I think both can be true.

Without Bowlsby getting decent group of five brands we are not strong enough for Yormark to immediately go on the offensive.

However, Yormark has shown he was the right hire, and I am convinced Bowlsby would have let the media deal run closer to its end and we would be the ones debating Apple TV and Okie State and KU or similar would be filling the USC/UCLA void.

If we want to live in fairy tale land:

The PAC accepts our offer to merge after OUT.
USC and UCLA still go to the BIG. (even in Disney films there is always a villain/crisis)
The BIG PAC realize Kliavkoff is not the answer and hire Yormark.

What would our media deal look like if Yormark had: UW, WSU, Ore, OreState, Stanford, Cal, ASU, UA, Utah, Colorado, ISU, KU, KState, OkieState, TCU, Baylor, WVU, and TXTech?

Would we have added two more to get to 20?


One can never know but we can WISH for similar position of strength in 2030.
 

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Yeah, Stanford will be fine.

That's why they're indifferent. They can 1000% afford almost whatever they want. They could even go FCS in football and it would pretty much have the same impact on the University financials as a rounding error.

It's much different than schools like WSU or OSU who's athletics related revenues I would imagine are a more crucial piece of the University landscape.
ISU grad and Stanford grad here. Stanford is strong in athletics but mostly the non-revenue variety. That is why they've won the Director's Cup a ridiculous number of times.

But Athletics is a rounding error on the Stanford bottom line. They could go independent or even the University of Chicago route and be just fine.
 

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ISU grad and Stanford grad here. Stanford is strong in athletics but mostly the non-revenue variety. That is why they've won the Director's Cup a ridiculous number of times.

But Athletics is a rounding error on the Stanford bottom line. They could go independent or even the University of Chicago route and be just fine.
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Oh god. Blow it out your ass, Stew.

Seriously, it just makes no sense right now.

You merge, you open up the ACC GOR and suddenly that merger is PAC+ACC minus everyone the big 10 and SEC takes. That remaining ACC is worse than the big 12, plus adds a lot more travel distance.

The only way it could happen imo is if the teams like FSU find a way to blow up the GOR, those teams leave, and PAC teams like Arizona are leaving for the big 12 at the same time. Then maybe the PAC-6/8 might find it appealing to merge with the ACC leftovers vs inviting a bunch of MWC teams. The problem is the likelihood of these things happening simultaneously is slim. More likely is the PAC suffers losses, has to backfill, and by the time the ACC is in a position to merge the PAC has all these other teams.
 

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Seriously, it just makes no sense right now.

You merge, you open up the ACC GOR and suddenly that merger is PAC+ACC minus everyone the big 10 and SEC takes. That remaining ACC is worse than the big 12, plus adds a lot more travel distance.

The only way it could happen imo is if the teams like FSU find a way to blow up the GOR, those teams leave, and PAC teams like Arizona are leaving for the big 12 at the same time. Then maybe the PAC-6/8 might find it appealing to merge with the ACC leftovers vs inviting a bunch of MWC teams. The problem is the likelihood of these things happening simultaneously is slim. More likely is the PAC suffers losses, has to backfill, and by the time the ACC is in a position to merge the PAC has all these other teams.
It’s a pipe dream to put the XII back down the pecking order, where these mouthbreathers think our conference belongs.

It’s not argued in good faith. It’s self serving red meat for his elitist readers.
 
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Think about what has actually transpired. Kliavkoff said they had options that would match B12. Clearly they do not. In fact, the only linear options must have completely disappeared. Why would you present a subscription-based offer that apparently lands in the $13.5M - $19.6M per year if there were linear options near that? He presented the BEST OFFER THEY HAVE!

How could any member want to stay?
 
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The ACC will not / can not do anything that would jeopardize the current GOR agreement.
Agreed, anything that opens up the GOR is unlikely to pass. It would need 8 schools voting in favor, and there's just too many questions about who goes where. It seems unlikely the B10 and SEC would be taking 8 between the two of them, so some B12-bound schools would have to get on board. There's not likely to be much room between ACC money and B12 money for the next decade plus, so why do it? Finally, it seems like the networks are putting the brakes on writing big checks for this cycle, so they may not support the move.
 

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It’s a pipe dream to put the XII back down the pecking order, where these mouthbreathers think our conference belongs.

It’s not argued in good faith. It’s self serving red meat for his elitist readers.

Yeah, its anything but to accept the truth: the value lies where people actually care about college sports and will tune in.