Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[cytor]

If the Pac 12 schools feel that the money is going to be better staying put, I think they are delusional. They don't get squat for ratings, and with no USC and no UCLA, the ratings will be worse.
They best jump to the Big 12 now and save face.

Who is the Pac 12 going to add in (without raiding other P5).... UNLV? Fresno State? Colo State? If I'm a school that gets invited to the Big 12, I take it.

 

[Boxerdaddy]

So...If the NEW Commissioner Yormak, who hasn't started yet, is talking to these schools, technically, they're not meeting with the Big12.

 

[isuno1fan]

I think your reading comprehension needs some work. No one is saying that it matters as in a factor to weigh schools on inviting them. They're saying it matters to our overall payout and the fact that hopefully the streaming giants get in with this round to bump up our pay. That it's exciting to htink about the possibilities.
We're clearly (at best) #3 in overall TV contracts and there's no way we're keeping up with the BIG or SEC. The only thing that can help close that gap a little at this time is Basketball. If we're far and away the best league for Basketball, that makes our T2 and T3 options go up, which helps our overall take at the end of the year. We could theoretically outpace the SEC or possibly the BIG10 in just T2 or T3 numbers. (Their contracts are structured differently so I don't think there's an apples to apples comparison)

There is more than one "needle" that we care about.

BUT AGAIN, NO ONE IS SAYING IT MATTERS FOR INCLUSION

It won’t bump our pay squat

 

[isuno1fan]

So...If the NEW Commissioner Yormak, who hasn't started yet, is talking to these schools, technically, they're not meeting with the Big12.

Now this is an interesting take. Much more so than pushing the bball matters narrative.

 

[CYCL0NE1]

I kind of feel like the Pac 10 opening up negotiations, might end badly for them. Hard to say, but some people are saying this is good for the Pac 10 so they can get in front of the Big 12 or whatever, not so sure.

The current rumor is that Fox and ESPN are refusing to negotiate at this time. If true, that would be an ominous sign for the future of the PAC 12.

 

[19210]

I'm guessing the alliance with the PAC/SEC/ACC is going to happen. This will make Oregon and Washington happy as they will be able to join the BIG or SEC once the GOR for both the PAC and ACC gets ripped apart some how. PAC will just sign around a five year deal and ACC will some how get out of theirs by having enough of their teams jumping ship. Then the rest of the domino's will fall into place.

 

[CascadeClone]

I kind of feel like the Pac 10 opening up negotiations, might end badly for them. Hard to say, but some people are saying this is good for the Pac 10 so they can get in front of the Big 12 or whatever, not so sure.

Even if they got a tentative number higher that current Big12 (say $50M per school), wouldn't the next logical thought be "I bet Big12's number would be higher still".

And that's on top of "how naked are we if UW/OU leave?" because there won't be any GoR being signed by those two.

 

[Boxerdaddy]

It won’t bump our pay squat

Did you read the following article posted earlier?

"The biggest revenue producer among college sports is no surprise: It’s football. College football brings in an average of $31.9 million per school per year,"
"The No. 2 revenue-producing sport for college is basketball, which brings $8.1 million per school. "

So average is approximately 25% of revenue. That's not nothing. For perspective, Boise State makes ~$4.1 million total because of their league affiliation.

Those are the averages. If you're clearly #1 that could be the foundation that some streaming service uses to get into the game. That's a lot of live content for them. Hopefully they make a big splash. This has been talked about since the last round of contracts, but at the time the streamers weren't at that point yet. Are they now? Hopefully.

From https://www.yahoo.com/video/college...z1NbAvm067kwd2feK7F-YWs1cilvB5azx1l7kMQ_UOoef

The biggest revenue producer among college sports is no surprise: It’s football. College football brings in an average of $31.9 million per school per year, financial website Zacks.com reported. That’s an eye-popping number, but it’s even more impressive when you see that number is more than the next 35 college sports combined.

A large portion of that revenue comes from TV deals. ESPN’s deal to broadcast the College Football Playoff is worth roughly $470 million annually, and the Power 5 conference TV contracts each bring in at least $200 million a year, according to On3.com.

The top-revenue producing schools for football won’t surprise you, either. Texas tops the list at $144 million, followed by national champion Georgia ($134 million), Michigan ($126 million), Ohio State ($116 million) and Alabama ($110 million).

Basketball​

The No. 2 revenue-producing sport for college is basketball, which brings $8.1 million per school. The bulk of revenue for basketball comes from CBS Sports’ deal to broadcast the NCAA Tournament, which is worth $1.1 billion per year.

Louisville brought in $42 million to lead all schools in basketball revenue, followed by Duke ($37 million), Kentucky ($30 million), North Carolina ($27 million), and Indiana ($26 million).

If you knock out 250 schools the per school revenue is impressive, but the Tournament can't pull in $1.1 billion if you take out the Davidson's, Butler's, VCU, etc.

 

[CascadeClone]

I'm sure the few power players are maximizing short term profits with practically no thought about long term profits. That's pretty much how all of capitalism has always worked with a few visionary exceptions.

The sad thing is that a huge academic institution absolutely should be able to look at the long term - they have huge endowments and aren't going anywhere. But they are apparently afraid of ESPN/Fox, who are absolutely looking short term. ND appears (for now) to be the only exception.

 

[HouClone]

The current rumor is that Fox and ESPN are refusing to negotiate at this time. If true, that would be an ominous sign for the future of the PAC 12.

Hope so. Wonder if the Big 12 would be making a deal with SEC / ESPN for them not to expand to any Pac-12 schools (SEC) as well as not to renegotiate with the Pac 12 for their own deal or with an ACC / Pac 12 merger (ESPN). In return, the Big 12 agrees on making a deal with them to get UT and OU to the SEC in 2024.

 

[StLouisClone]

The current rumor is that Fox and ESPN are refusing to negotiate at this time. If true, that would be an ominous sign for the future of the PAC 12.

I would like to see sonething similar to the nondenial denials that the Texas and OU ADs issued last year.

 

[ISUCyclones2015]

 

[CascadeClone]

The current rumor is that Fox and ESPN are refusing to negotiate at this time. If true, that would be an ominous sign for the future of the PAC 12.

That just puts pressure on UW/UO/Stanford and maybe ND to jump ship. Which is exactly what ESPN/Fox want.

Now they put a ton of pressure on the Hateful 8 too, and failed, so who knows. Maybe Phil Knight will write a giant cardboard check and keep it all alive. But there are about 10 games of Prisoner's Dilemma happening in the Pac12 right now.

 

[Lexclone]

I'm guessing the alliance with the PAC/SEC/ACC is going to happen. This will make Oregon and Washington happy as they will be able to join the BIG or SEC once the GOR for both the PAC and ACC gets ripped apart some how. PAC will just sign around a five year deal and ACC will some how get out of theirs by having enough of their teams jumping ship. Then the rest of the domino's will fall into place.

The last alliance worked out well…

 

[Gunnerclone]

The last alliance worked out well…

Very long lasting!

 

[HoibergIsMyHero]

I am curious why the PAC isn’t in a better position? They still have UW and Oregon. Two almost flagship level schools. Big12 has? OSU and KU for bball? Is it it just strength in numbers?

 

[Gunnerclone]

I am curious why the PAC isn’t in a better position? They still have UW and Oregon. Two almost flagship level schools. Big12 has? OSU and KU for bball? Is it it just strength in numbers?

Yes, we also still have OU and Texas technically as well. Lol.

 

[CYCLNST8]

I am curious why the PAC isn’t in a better position?

Because only Oregon & Utah fans care about college sports.

 

[alarson]

I am curious why the PAC isn’t in a better position? They still have UW and Oregon. Two almost flagship level schools. Big12 has? OSU and KU for bball? Is it it just strength in numbers?

Strength in viewership as well.

There's just a lot more interest for CFB in the midwest

 

[isuno1fan]

From CU board:

Colorado Board of Regents will have a special board meeting tonight. Agenda says the meeting is for "Legal advice on a specific matter - Pac 12 athletics update." #cubuffs


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