Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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From CU board:

Colorado Board of Regents will have a special board meeting tonight. Agenda says the meeting is for "Legal advice on a specific matter - Pac 12 athletics update." #cubuffs


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My guess is this doesnt mean a ton today. This is probably just getting everyone on the same page, advising regents on current status and best steps forward.
 

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My guess is this doesnt mean a ton today. This is probably just getting everyone on the same page, advising regents on current status and best steps forward.
Agreed, but I bet everything moves fairly quickly from here.
 

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This time reminds me of when Clemson and Florida State were "rumored" to be going to the Big 12. Notre Dame joined the ACC and the good expansion news got squashed.
I don't get how you get that comparison. The PAC's two biggest dogs just left and the conference is wounded. No one left the ACC.
 

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I think for AZ/ASU/Utah that answer is a super obvious no and they are ready to sign up immediately. Not as sure for the others including CU.

In the unlikely event UW/Oregon stick around, they could see some sort of "pie slicing" at 8 the way we did for years at 10.

IMO we need to get the PAC down to 6 or 4 as soon as possible. Then their members might vote to dissolve the conference, and they could join as soon as 2023 which would be crazy.
 
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How many people are pushing this?

For some reason realignment Stan’s can’t handle a little hypothetical basketball ramifications talk. King Football! Same as when they were in HS playing in the 1A substate. ‘85 was supposed to be their year but their QB knocked up his gf and had to drop out of school and get a job at the Co-op.
 
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Strength in viewership as well.

There's just a lot more interest for CFB in the midwest

This is something the national media can't wrap their heads around. They've spent years downgrading the Big 12, and they can't fathom that the Big 12 has more fans, watches more games, and garners a bigger TV contract than the Pac 12. It doesn't mesh with the ongoing narrative.

That's not to mention that the actual football product has been better than the Pac 12 as well.
 
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Nebraska's dynasty I believe was combination of good fortune, good timing, and unique circumstances that started to erode after the formation of the Big 12.

They had a lot of things going for themselves during their heyday including:
* Excellent, innovative coaching (and strength program)
* Able to recruit nationally due to limited TV slot availability
* Partial qualifiers
* Walk-on program
* ...

Towards the end, these things started to fall apart, leading to Nebraska's irrational and erratic decision making and current state of the program.

Nebraska fans keep looking to the past in order to reclaim their former glory, but it's unlikely that they will find the success they are looking for there.

Every college football team is on TV now, would-be Nebraska "walk-ons" go to NDSU or Wyoming, and they probably won't be able to get partial qualifiers in the B1G.

Really I think Bo Pelini probably achieved sort of the peak of what modern Nebraska football could look like unless they find the next great coach (chances for that are pretty low I think).

IMO there's not a lot that separates Nebraska from any other midwest team right now besides unrealistic expectations and a storied past over 20 years ago.

Maybe if they can convince Warren Buffett to set up an NIL program, they can have some good seasons lol
Dont forget the Massive University sponsored Steriod program. It is widely known that Nebby dispensed the roids like candy during that time too.
 
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For some reason realignment Stan’s can’t handle a little hypothetical basketball ramifications talk. King Football! Same as when they were in HS playing in the 1A substate. ‘85 was supposed to be their year but their QB knocked up his gf and had to drop out of school and get a job at the Co-op.

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The best and worst part of the new Big 12 is the lack of super power. The SEC and B1G aren't clamoring for any of our schools.

The fight is for #3 versus the ACC. That is why we HAVE to expand so it puts pressure on further realignment changes to crush the ACC when Clemson, UNC, and FSU leave.
Someone will emerge. Someone has to win the Big12. The key will be the Big12 getting at least some playoff wins. Powerhouses come and go. Kids today aren’t going to care about Nebraska being good before they were born.
 

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I don't get how you get that comparison. The PAC's two biggest dogs just left and the conference is wounded. No one left the ACC.
I was talking about how we were excited about add some big name schools and weakening a conference. But then nothing happened. It still is good news for us with the Pac being a lesser conference than a week ago.
 

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I know nothing about OSU, so I can’t comment on them. I get what you’re saying and I don’t want to quibble too much, but fan base support is more than simply attendance at events. We’ve certainly had lean years when the team lacked the current success. Their football stadium only holds ~35K. Also, geographically, WSU is at an extreme disadvantage when it comes to attendance. Having been there, the campus is nice and the fans are as rabid about their team as we are about ours. If you recall, it was quite the competition as to which fan base was going to drink more when we played them in the bowl game. They are generally a fun group of fans. I know it has to be this way on some level, but I hate to see them reduced to their attendance or TV numbers, because I know first hand it’s more than that.
I am sure their fans are fanatics and WSU is a solid university. All I am saying there is a hierarchy in college sports regarding media rights value. Unfortunately, Iowa State isn't top 35-40 from a a TV Rights $ perspective. Unfortunately for Washington State they aren't in the top 50.

Plus if the Big12 expands west, I would prefer the new adds are geographically similar. At this point, our best chance is to add CU, UU, ASU & UA with UU the closest to WSU at over 700 miles away. Now if Washington & Oregon were to join the Big12- then I would consider Oregon State & Washington State as long as the combined value of the 4 schools would be accretive to the Big12's per school media rights payouts.

Sadly, realignment isn't about great academic schools, awesome fans or great campus culture- it's all about the media rights value of a school. And does it grow the prospective conference's average annual revenue/school.

The one exception, is if one of the schools added exceeds the current per school payout by a wide margin then it can subsidize a lower media rights value school.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Dont forget the Massive University sponsored Steriod program. It is widely known that Nebby dispensed the roids like candy during that time too.
And the scholarship limit skirting of having the football players being on track scholarships and every county have a scholarship for a player on the football team.
 

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