ND can’t get to that level alone, let alone dragging the ACC deadbeats along with them.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I had to look this up, but the year was 2002 and Miami played in the Rose Bowl.
Big tin people have a wierd ideal of the Rose Bowl. Even more than Pac12 people. What they don't realize is the vast majority of college football fans don't care if it is in Pasadena, Miami or Atlanta.
I was listening to two Iowa fans talk about how the rose bowl could let a "greasy team" like Miami play in such a storied stadium. It was ruining the tradition and would have a lasting impact on the rose bowl. We all know what the term "greasy team" was code for. I still regret to this day not calling them out on their racist attitudes. Both of these guys are now in their late 70's.
Big tin people have a wierd ideal of the Rose Bowl. Even more than Pac12 people. What they don't realize is the vast majority of college football fans don't care if it is in Pasadena, Miami or Atlanta.
I was listening to two Iowa fans talk about how the rose bowl could let a "greasy team" like Miami play in such a storied stadium. It was ruining the tradition and would have a lasting impact on the rose bowl. We all know what the term "greasy team" was code for. I still regret to this day not calling them out on their racist attitudes. Both of these guys are now in their late 70's.
I'm wondering if that 75 million number from NBC was a bit of miscommunication. The other speculation was that ND wanted about 75 million total and that's almost exactly what they are getting between the NBC amount and the ACC payout. I don't follow it closely enough to know for sure. Just speculating.Looks like the Notre Dame decision is coming to it’s conclusion with them staying as an independent but signicantly less than their original asking price. Wanted 75 closer to 60 million due to NBC likely getting the Big10 v ND dame with the B1G deal and the other matchups being less desirable.
The question now is will ND be forced to join the Big 10 in the next media deal. Looks like they are getting squeezed due to the NBC/Big 10 relationship.
Notre Dame Reportedly Leaning One Way On Future Of The Program
Notre Dame is reportedly nearing a decision on the future of the Fighting Irish. Notre Dame is expected to remain independent.www.outkick.com
Wut? ND's NBC deal nets them $15 mill/year and the last non-Covid year ACC payout to ND was just under $11 mill.
According to the article originally posted on pg 443. https://www.outkick.com/notre-dame-big-ten-football-remain-independent/
"It had been speculated the program could have earned $75 million annually from NBC, but given the fact some of the Fighting Irish games don’t put up monster ratings, $60 million is what the team can expect, according to the same report."
60+11m from ACC or whatever it will be in the future, probably more. That's close to 75m.
That would be if everyone else remains in the ACC. There is obviously quite a bit of value there if other conferences (B1G and SEC) see adding schools like ND, Clemson, Miami, FSU, NC, and Virginia as adding value to their already projected 100 millionish per school.
It wouldn't really be the deadbeats if, as I said, they join with the ACC as it currently exists. I am not talking about floating whatever is left after some teams leave the ACC, I am talking if ND would outright join at some point, or at the least agree to join when the ACC GOR is up.
That completely flips the narrative on everything and the ACC gets to add a blue chip piece on par with what the B1G and SEC just added. Its doubtful the ACC can stay together long enough for that to come to fruition in 10 years, but its worth considering if ND doesn't jump now.
So 10 years from now anything is possible. But to get close to the big ten deal ND would have to add close to 40mil per school. For 14 other schools that’s over a half billion per year just by adding ND. NBC has ND’s rights values at 60mil ish per year so not sure where the extra 500mil is going to come from.
If this was posted, I missed it...but ESPN spinoff talk might rev up again. I've given up trying to figure out what every new data point might possibly mean.
www.cnbc.com
Hedge fund manager Dan Loeb buys a new stake in Disney and pushes for ESPN spinoff
In a letter to Disney CEO Bob Chapek, Loeb said there is a strong case that the ESPN business should be spun off.
www.cnbc.com
ACC deal is comically bad right now, so the entire deal would get revalued when the GOR ends. Presumably that would include all of the schools currently in the ACC. I don't think its a really genuine argument to act like the current value on ACC schools, under a horrible deal, is in any way an accurate representation of their value. ND wouldn't need to add 500 million in value alone, it would just need to make the entire conferences' rights more appealing. I'm assuming the entire package of schools bumps media value somewhat, otherwise I don't see why either the Big 10 or SEC would want to add an ND program projected at 40 million per year below the current 100 millions dollar per school number.
The big ten wants to add them becuase it’s another marquee brand so the matchups they can highlight will be even greater. You can say that the ACC is undervalued but considering the conference is Clemson (who is very new to power status and might not stay there) and no one else I would say they are properly valued. ND in the big ten has 7 potential marquee matchups, they have 1 currently in the ACC with a second one in Miami if they can continue this recruiting tear.
The problem with the ACC is lack of major media markets. Those still matter, which is why USC adds so much value to the B1G's media rights deal.
So 12 or more years down the road, until then ND is staying in the ACC. That is a long time to wait for the B10 next move, but I guess they do not have to be in a hurry.
Everything now depends on the money the P12 schools are going to get and what the B12 can offer those schools. If the numbers are close, the 4 corner schools will stay, if not, they will leave. Oregon, Washington and Stanford will try to jump to the B10 if the invite is there down the road, otherwise they will stick it out in the P12, unless the 4 corner schools jump, forcing them to move somewhere.
Well they're not in the ACC now. If they did want to join the B1G their current agreement with the ACC wouldn't stop them.
ND's affiliation with the ACC will likely not reduce the number of ND's ACC games even with renewal of their NBC deal and the B10's new NBC deal. That is in their ACC contract and a condition of their ACC membership for other sports and why ND is party to the ACC GOR.
OK, sure. for a semifinal game on Jan. 1.
Then do the rose parade on Monday, Jan. 9th. Everybody should get the day off also.
I don't see the logistics of the Rose parade, etc. for the traditional Rose Bowl. How would it work?
********, the deal ND made to get their other sports into the ACC was that ND would play 5 games a year in the conference, and that if they wanted to join a conference, then the ACC has to be their pick. For them to move off of that deal, they would either have to buy their way out of the current deal or find some way to legally break it.
ND has the deal that suits them better right now, they get to pick 7 games to play anywhere and anybody, and then get to have 5 ACC games. Their other sports get to play in the ACC as conference members.
Yeah I know ND has gotten exactly what it wants from the ACC. The ACC has no choice. What I'm saying is that if ND wanted to pull their other sports out of the ACC and go all-in on B1G membership, there would be zero problem paying whatever exit penalty the ACC imposed.
