Rashad Vaughn - Not going to ISU

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Bret44

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Well, you might want to actually make a Sweet 16 first, and a much better summation of your program is it is more consistent making the tournament than it has been, but it certainly isn't as strong as ever. Not close. You were an Elite 8 team and a 2 seed, so your current teams aren't even close.

Didn't the Alamo burn to the ground? Hasn't Rick Barnes basically been what you are describing? Why are you here?
 

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How can any of you with a straight face argue that the current program is in the same realm or "as strong as it has ever been"? That is an insult to your 2000 and 2001 teams.

It isn't like Iowa State is going to be all that much better next year than they are now. You lose your two best players and, sorry, the transfer from Northern Illinois/Marquette and Clayton Custer aren't going to make you a top level team. You are looking at another upper mid-level Big XII finish next year and a 5-6 seed at best in the tourney.


You didn't play a round robin schedule then.
The 2001 team, was an overachieving bunch and it showed come NCAA tourney time.

Even in 2000 there were 6 good teams in the Big 12, and 6 absolutely horrible teams. 3 of the top 4 were from the South,
ISU played Texas and OSU at home and won both. They played OU on the road and lost.





TeamConferencePct.OverallPct.
1Iowa State14–2.87532–5.865
2Texas13–3.81324–9.727
3Oklahoma12–4.75027–7.794
4Oklahoma State12–4.75027–7.794
5Kansas11–5.68824–10.706
6Missouri10–6.62518–13.581
7Colorado7–9.43818–14.563
8Nebraska4–12.25011–19.367
9Baylor4–12.25014–15.483
10Texas A&M4–12.2508–20.286
11Texas Tech3–13.18812–16.429
12Kansas State2–14.1259–19.321


Lastly you have no idea what kind of impact the transfers will have. Nobody knew what Kane would do this. History says Hoiberg's transfers play at a high level. You say they will suck, guess will see.
 

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Well, you might want to actually make a Sweet 16 first, and a much better summation of your program is it is more consistent making the tournament than it has been, but it certainly isn't as strong as ever. Not close. You were an Elite 8 team and a 2 seed, so your current teams aren't even close.

Do you have a team Texas Alamo? Maybe we can discuss the strength of your program versus the strength of our program. Because I'm fairly that if you live in that dusty **** hole of a state that are program is superior to any program in Texas.
 

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Well, you might want to actually make a Sweet 16 first, and a much better summation of your program is it is more consistent making the tournament than it has been, but it certainly isn't as strong as ever. Not close. You were an Elite 8 team and a 2 seed, so your current teams aren't even close.


A little silly to take a 32-5 team which very very few of even the elite teams get to....and make that OUR baseline to compare the term "as strong as the program was". Are we a program that's going to happen to have 2 all Americans on it at the same time usually? No. Tinsley and Fizer being there was kind of a perfect storm of events and circumstances that we obviously benefitted from....but wàsnt the norm, and really hasn't been since.

So be somewhat realistic. I would say despite not having those types of players yet.....the consistency is building to where I feel like every year we should make the tournament. From there we have to work on progressing in the tournament.....it's a process.

If you want to solely compare it to two of our glory years.....then sure...it's not as good. In most programs it would be. If you view it in the bigger picture of where the program typically is....yes...we are in a good spot as a program and we only seem to be doing better.
 

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I talked to some more people tonight and they told me Vaughn silently committed to come play at Iowa State after the Michigan game. Makes a little more sense why the staff went all in on him and appeared to be backing off other recruits. They way it all went down in the end sounded extremely shady. It makes me feel even worse for the coaching staff.
 

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After wasting 5 minutes of my life reading TexasAlamo's prior posts in there a reason why he has not been banned by the mods. Not one single positive posts and 40 posts that are clearly an effort to troll.
 

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Bummer. But oh well. Apparently he liked what UNLV could offer more than what Hoiberg and Iowa State could. Sucks for the coaches to have put in that much time and effort and come out with nothing.

I'm reasonably sure Thomas will continue to get better over the next 9 months to be a solid SG for us.
 

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That's what Craig James said when he came home and the dead hookers were laying on the floor.

REMEMBER THE FIVE!!!

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