Quaron Adams questions

[demoncore1031]

One of the main basic values of undersized "speed demons", is the attention they draw, and their ability to do damage to defensive zone schemes. A WR who is a threat on all plays stretches the defense both sideline to sideline and downfield. That can open up pretty big gaps over the middle, and if you're putting him in motion often, you're moving them where you want them to be, (hopefully).

Any player that can put extra stress on the opponent without even touching the ball is a very valuable commodity, IMO.

Yep. A few years ago I was puzzled when they would bring Tarique Milton into motion on most plays. Let him use that speed to go deep and draw the attention of a safety, geez.

 

[madguy30]

For those who think Coach Campbell is too conservative (in philosophy) to know how to utilize a small, quick football player, google Corey Jones - Toledo Rockets.

Imo the 'conservative' thing gets over played a bit since ISU's used guys like Butler and Hall to expand the offense but why haven't we seen the darter type at ISU?

Didn't he have good Olines at Toledo too?

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Imo the 'conservative' thing gets over played a bit since ISU's used guys like Butler and Hall to expand the offense but why haven't we seen the darter type at ISU?

Didn't he have good Olines at Toledo too?

Him and Manning were touted as Oline gurus but they have been mostly underwhelming and even bad since he's been here. I think they hit so big on TE their first recruiting classes that they got over dependent on them. They're good players so it makes sense but last year you could tell whoever was calling plays was really missing Allen, Soehner and Kolar.

 

[clonedude]

For those who think Coach Campbell is too conservative (in philosophy) to know how to utilize a small, quick football player, google Corey Jones - Toledo Rockets.

Was that a decade ago or what?

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

For those who think Coach Campbell is too conservative (in philosophy) to know how to utilize a small, quick football player, google Corey Jones - Toledo Rockets.

I'm not saying he can't do it, but he hasn't here. And not for a lack of trying. Also had Candle as OC.

 

[Stormin]

IMO Manning let the 3 tight ends thing go to his head. Kolar and Allen and Soehner long gone. And the line play was poor. Hoping for improvement.

 

[Aclone]

I get the feeling we're going to see a lot of different receivers because we have a lot of young potential. Essex, Gaines, Adams, Ngoyi, Black (might be a TE now?) all were pretty strong prospects out of high school.

I am pretty sure that we have more depth of talent right now at wideout than I’ve ever seen on a Cyclone team…and that goes back to (and a bit before) Tracy Henderson.

If I had to pick a top five from what I heard in the Spring, I’d say that starts with Noel and Stanley (who should be more in sync with the offense), Jayden Higgins steps into a decent chunk of what X did last year, and Greg Gaines III bumps up in a big way.

That’s four.

Then you have the experienced upperclassmen in Aidan Bitter and Daniel Jackson, more youngsters with Jason Essex, Back and Ngoyi—and if healthy, Adams should contend at M behind Noel.

All of these guys are capable of being contributors.

Oh, and going back through Spring Practice to Cyning day, lots of good stuff has been said about the two early enrollees, Beni Ngoyi and Kai Black.

And while that included CMC’s comments last December, the guy who really lit up his face was (now) just arrived Floridian Michael Parkes.

Without going back to look (mostly because I can’t find the quote), what he said with relish was something like, “Now this guy is a wide receiver”.

So, as a dark horse, Parkes would be my #5.

 

[DrClone]

I am pretty sure that we have more depth of talent right now at wideout than I’ve ever seen on a Cyclone team…and that goes back to (and a bit before) Tracy Henderson.

If I had to pick a top five from what I heard in the Spring, I’d say that starts with Noel and Stanley (who should be more in sync with the offense), Jayden Higgins steps into a decent chunk of what X did last year, and Greg Gaines III bumps up in a big way.

That’s four.

Then you have the experienced upperclassmen in Aidan Bitter and Daniel Jackson, more youngsters with Jason Essex, Back and Ngoyi—and if healthy, Adams should contend at M behind Noel.

All of these guys are capable of being contributors.

Oh, and going back through Spring Practice to Cyning day, lots of good stuff has been said about the two early enrollees, Beni Ngoyi and Kai Black.

And while that included CMC’s comments last December, the guy who really lit up his face was (now) just arrived Floridian Michael Parkes.

Without going back to look (mostly because I can’t find the quote), what he said with relish was something like, “Now this guy is a wide receiver”.

So, as a dark horse, Parkes would be my #5.

I hope your right. It seems like we always have numbers but only a couple every year make a significant contribution. I agree with you that even some of the new guys were highly recruited so hopefully some of them live up to expectations.

 

[AllInForISU]

Seems like we frequently have quick/speedy guys I feel are underutilized. Jarvis West and Kene come to mind.

Kene did not have change of direction speed in college. He was built to be a return man, straight line blazing speed. Jarvis was a casualty of an absolutely anemic offense, and not to mention, he had multiple injuries IIRC.

Coaches aren’t dumb. If a guy can help them win, they will probably play them, unless of course you are Jim Walden.

 

[clonedude]

I am pretty sure that we have more depth of talent right now at wideout than I’ve ever seen on a Cyclone team…and that goes back to (and a bit before) Tracy Henderson.

If I had to pick a top five from what I heard in the Spring, I’d say that starts with Noel and Stanley (who should be more in sync with the offense), Jayden Higgins steps into a decent chunk of what X did last year, and Greg Gaines III bumps up in a big way.

That’s four.

Then you have the experienced upperclassmen in Aidan Bitter and Daniel Jackson, more youngsters with Jason Essex, Back and Ngoyi—and if healthy, Adams should contend at M behind Noel.

All of these guys are capable of being contributors.

Oh, and going back through Spring Practice to Cyning day, lots of good stuff has been said about the two early enrollees, Beni Ngoyi and Kai Black.

And while that included CMC’s comments last December, the guy who really lit up his face was (now) just arrived Floridian Michael Parkes.

Without going back to look (mostly because I can’t find the quote), what he said with relish was something like, “Now this guy is a wide receiver”.

So, as a dark horse, Parkes would be my #

Interesting about Parkes. Maybe his freshman year will be like Noel’s? That would be nice!

 

[Tre4ISU]

This, I'm sure, will be a source of consternation for me all season. We have Adams there and I just don't have any faith he'll be used much and it'll drive me nuts. I really hope I'm wrong.

 

[BCClone]

Kene did not have change of direction speed in college. He was built to be a return man, straight line blazing speed. Jarvis was a casualty of an absolutely anemic offense, and not to mention, he had multiple injuries IIRC.

Coaches aren’t dumb. If a guy can help them win, they will probably play them, unless of course you are Jim Walden.

Kene was a cutter. He was best gaining speed, making a single cut and turning in the jets. Would have been good as a jet sweep type of guy.

 

[heitclone]

Other than Noel, when was the last high school recruit have an impact at wr? Seems like we've done better with transfers. Really disappointing development from that group. Hopefully the position group coaching changes help.

 

[MyNameEhJeff]

I am pretty sure that we have more depth of talent right now at wideout than I’ve ever seen on a Cyclone team…and that goes back to (and a bit before) Tracy Henderson.

If I had to pick a top five from what I heard in the Spring, I’d say that starts with Noel and Stanley (who should be more in sync with the offense), Jayden Higgins steps into a decent chunk of what X did last year, and Greg Gaines III bumps up in a big way.

That’s four.

Then you have the experienced upperclassmen in Aidan Bitter and Daniel Jackson, more youngsters with Jason Essex, Back and Ngoyi—and if healthy, Adams should contend at M behind Noel.

All of these guys are capable of being contributors.

Oh, and going back through Spring Practice to Cyning day, lots of good stuff has been said about the two early enrollees, Beni Ngoyi and Kai Black.

And while that included CMC’s comments last December, the guy who really lit up his face was (now) just arrived Floridian Michael Parkes.

Without going back to look (mostly because I can’t find the quote), what he said with relish was something like, “Now this guy is a wide receiver”.

So, as a dark horse, Parkes would be my #5.

The spring practice I was at, Stanley was running with the 2’s and even 3’s at times and had a bad case of the dropsies.

Quaron Adams was participating but was in a non contact jersey.

Ngoyi had a cast on his foot and was riding around on a knee scooter, so he was a very limited, if at all, spring ball participant.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Other than Noel, when was the last high school recruit have an impact at wr? Seems like we've done better with transfers. Really disappointing development from that group. Hopefully the position group coaching changes help.

Development has been pretty average at many positions under Campbell.

 

[wintersmd]

Sorry for this brief interruption, but I'll never forget when JJ Moses ran a reverse on ISU's first offensive play against Iowa and took it to the house.

Steve Loney (our offensive coordinator) said he knew Iowa would be so jacked up to play against us that they'd probably over pursue on the very first play and boy was he right!

Then he split the defenders at the 10 to walk it in. That play was amazing.

 

[Aclone]

Development has been pretty average at many positions under Campbell.

Wide receiver and OL are “many”?

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Wide receiver and OL are “many”?

8 of 11 on offense. Defense has been good but I wouldn't say we've high level development besides DL. Wouldn't say Purdy got much more potent in his last years either. I also think Campbell would agree considering he's on his 3rd S&C coach.

 

[DrClone]

8 of 11 on offense. Defense has been good but I wouldn't say we've high level development besides DL. Wouldn't say Purdy got much more potent in his last years either. I also think Campbell would agree considering he's on his 3rd S&C coach.

I think lb and db has been decent. We have had some studs come in in both groups but we've also had guys that weren't big contributors when they came in but developed and played big roles as So's, Jr's and Sr's.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I think lb and db has been decent. We have had some studs come in in both groups but we've also had guys that weren't big contributors when they came in but developed and played big roles as So's, Jr's and Sr's.

Ya defense has been sold for sure. Dline is puting guys in the league though.