Proposed Des Moines Zoning Changes

Discussion in 'Real Estate' started by ArgentCy, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. TXCyclones

    TXCyclones Well-Known Member

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    Pretty ironic comment since you seem to be worried about what everybody else is doing.
     
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  2. CascadeClone

    CascadeClone Well-Known Member

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    Agree. Drive thru some of the Skogman-built neighborhoods form the 60s-80s in Cedar Rapids. There are literally like 4 floorplans, all 90% identical, in chunks of 100-200 houses in some places.

    Balance is what is called for, but people tend to over-react both ways. I suppose it is hard to codify the 2nd part of "do what you want, within reason".
     
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  3. ArgentCy

    ArgentCy Well-Known Member

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    Actually it often does now.
     
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    alarson Well-Known Member

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    I think you might have a neighborhood watch meeting to get to.

     
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  5. TXCyclones

    TXCyclones Well-Known Member

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    Nope, but he could go to another neighborhood and build it. And, FLW would be disgusted that you'd want to ruin the aesthetic of an existing neighborhood.
     
  6. TXCyclones

    TXCyclones Well-Known Member

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    Architectural review board.
     
  7. ArgentCy

    ArgentCy Well-Known Member

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    I am worried about what the local government is dictating to the market. I am not worried about how the neighboring cows affect my property value.
     
  8. cyhiphopp

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    True. Most of the brand new homes being built are more expensive, but there's a market for that. People are moving out of the homes they bought 10 years ago and moving farther north into newer/bigger homes. That also opens up good homes for people to move into though.

    I bought a house that was built in 97 and we love it. It was reasonably priced but still in decent shape (except for the deck that we had to replace).
    Similar scenarios are occurring throughout the suburbs. People who bought decent houses in West Des Moines are moving to newer houses in Waukee and their previous house is generally reasonably priced for someone else.

    Low income is a harder issue to tackle, because even without zoning restrictions, not a lot of builders are building houses for under 200K. You are going to end up with an older house if you want a single family home, or you will end up in a town home.
     
  9. ArgentCy

    ArgentCy Well-Known Member

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    If this is a new architect they wouldn't be able to build because it's not on the "approved" list.
     
  10. TXCyclones

    TXCyclones Well-Known Member

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    That's a horrible thing to call the neighbor ladies!
     
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  11. matclone

    matclone Well-Known Member

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    With all the expertise floating around here, I'm wondering if a certain someone doesn't have City Planner on their resume.
     
  12. Gunnerclone

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    I’m sure it is but when it towers over a street of classic Cape Cods and Colonials it looks stupid.
     
  13. mtowncyclone13

    mtowncyclone13 Well-Known Member

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    I knew at least 3 people on here with a similar title and actual knowledge.

    One of the "problems" with DSM is people DO move from West Des Moines to Waukee for a newer house where in a lot of bigger cities that drive would be horrendous so they redevelop older areas. There's little pressure to redevelop in DSM because those people will just drive to Waukee. In the twin cities there are redevelopments all over the cities because building a new development means an hour drive.
     
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  14. cyclonesurveyor

    cyclonesurveyor Well-Known Member

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    When I was in the Twin Cities - we were always surveying sweet old lake houses / cabins on Minnetonka that were purchased for big money. But we were usually back in a couple months to layout some monstrosity of a new lake house.
     
  15. somecyguy

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    I lived in Deephaven for a few years as a kid and I occasionally drive through the area when I'm in town. It's crazy how much rebuilding has occurred along the lake over the past 20 years. I have an architect friend in Mound and he says a lot of his work is designing those homes for people.
     
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  16. madguy30

    madguy30 Well-Known Member

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    You must live in a very different world than a lot of people.
     
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  17. ArgentCy

    ArgentCy Well-Known Member

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    I know this is what they tell kids in school for 13-17 years but that doesn't mean they are accurate.
     
  18. madguy30

    madguy30 Well-Known Member

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    Whatever keeps you detached.
     
  19. ArgentCy

    ArgentCy Well-Known Member

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    A Free Market doesn't have zoning laws. What does that make our economy? Who knows other than some combination of ideas.
     
  20. mtowncyclone13

    mtowncyclone13 Well-Known Member

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    I'll bite. And I'm certain you won't respond. But here we go: name three items that *you*, in practical reality, were unable to find/do because of a "lack of a free market". Not a hypothetical "I want to shoot an eagle with a grenade launcher" freedom, or "having design standards on roads means my taxes go up" but a product or service you want that's unavailable. And the thing is you don't get to make assumptions based on your options. You need to use concrete examples.

    You know who has a free market? Somalia.
     
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