Pres. Leath Comments on Rhoads

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clonedude

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Oh, and good luck in finding a coach that wants to come here and work for a president like this too. The word gets out about things like this.

Leath hung Hoiberg out to dry on the Bubu situation, and now is publicly throwing Rhoads under the bus as well. That won't get you too far with attracting the next head coach at all IMO.
 

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For those of you that watch The Wire:

Leath is giving a **** when it ain't his turn to give a ****.

Yeah, I'm glad he recognizes that we want to remain a P5 school and that winning football matters. However, this comment does nothing in the scheme of things besides stir the pot. You think Rhoads/Pollard didnt already know they are on the hot seat? You think the donors don't know that? There was no reason to make this statement.
 

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For those of you that watch The Wire:

Leath is giving a **** when it ain't his turn to give a ****.

Yeah, I'm glad he recognizes that we want to remain a P5 school and that winning football matters. However, this comment does nothing in the scheme of things besides stir the pot. You think Rhoads/Pollard didnt already know they are on the hot seat? You think the donors don't know that? There was no reason to make this statement.

I never said his comments are smart, just that he did it on purpose. You are probably right in that the statement is bad but Leath apparently didn't give a ****.
 

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You guys are falling for the drive by journalism like bugs to the zapper. The quotes about expecting a turn around next season and CPR being the guy or not are not a continuous quote. In fact the turn around expected next season isn't even a quote, that came from that writer.

For all anyone reading knows the questions were:

How do you feel about the football program?
It's a business, we need to get better and that's hopefully next season. (Quote becomes 'it's a business' journalist adds to article paraphrasing 'and a turnaround is expected next season')

20 questions later

How do you feel about the state of the football program at ISU and what have you told JP about the future of CPR?
I’d like to get our football program where it needs to be, which is representative of a first-class university. We’re not there. The last two seasons were clearly disappointing. As to Paul’s future, I can’t predict that. He knows, (ISU athletics director Jamie Pollard) knows that we want a first-class, winning program and that’s where we’ve got to be and hopefully he’s the guy to get us there, but either way, we’ve got to get there.

By the magic of article writing those two responses have been put in proximity to one another and all of you have inferred that Leath has said CPR needs to win next year or he's gone. In actuality he said absolutely nothing that should be newsworthy. He said football is a business and we under performed the last 2 years. He also said ISU needs to stop under performing and when asked about the coach said he hopes he gets things turned around but if he doesn't we need to do better on the field.

A mountain has been made out of a mole hill in this thread.
 

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You guys are falling for the drive by journalism like bugs to the zapper. The quotes about expecting a turn around next season and CPR being the guy or not are not a continuous quote. In fact the turn around expected next season isn't even a quote, that came from that writer.

For all anyone reading knows the questions were:

How do you feel about the football program?
It's a business, we need to get better and that's hopefully next season. (Quote becomes 'it's a business' journalist adds to article paraphrasing 'and a turnaround is expected next season')

20 questions later

How do you feel about the state of the football program at ISU and what have you told JP about the future of CPR?
I’d like to get our football program where it needs to be, which is representative of a first-class university. We’re not there. The last two seasons were clearly disappointing. As to Paul’s future, I can’t predict that. He knows, (ISU athletics director Jamie Pollard) knows that we want a first-class, winning program and that’s where we’ve got to be and hopefully he’s the guy to get us there, but either way, we’ve got to get there.

By the magic of article writing those two responses have been put in proximity to one another and all of you have inferred that Leath has said CPR needs to win next year or he's gone. In actuality he said absolutely nothing that should be newsworthy. He said football is a business and we under performed the last 2 years. He also said ISU needs to stop under performing and when asked about the coach said he hopes he gets things turned around but if he doesn't we need to do better on the field.

A mountain has been made out of a mole hill in this thread.

The bolded alone (a continuous quote) is enough to draw the connections that have been drawn in this thread. Your larger thoughts on journalism, while generally meritorious, are misplaced here.
 

CyFan61

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For those of you that watch The Wire:

Leath is giving a **** when it ain't his turn to give a ****.

Yeah, I'm glad he recognizes that we want to remain a P5 school and that winning football matters. However, this comment does nothing in the scheme of things besides stir the pot. You think Rhoads/Pollard didnt already know they are on the hot seat? You think the donors don't know that? There was no reason to make this statement.

The bolded is why Leath said it IMO. After JP's "stand by CPR" comments, if Leath had said nothing or had done the same, some donors would have sat next year out. Hell, look at this board alone; tons of people want CPR gone and think ISU administration is just satisfied with mediocrity. Leath is speaking out against that idea and sometimes leaders need to say something controversial in order to shape the direction. I like it
 

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I have not read where Leath has stated ISU must have a winning record in 2015 or Rhoads will be fired.

Thank God he cares about the football program and has some goals and expects accountability. Haven't heard this from Pollard. I haven't been a Leath fan, but he is right on this.
 

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This entire football program is becoming the dumpster fire it was in the 90's, starting from the top down. No one has faith in anyone and the assistant coaching carousel and recruiting woes are the result. Oh and the *** kickings on the field every week.
 

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How is it that some of the same guys who say ISU is accepting mediocrity on the field get all upset when the university President says football at ISU needs to be better?

It makes the head spin.
 

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I have not read where Leath has stated ISU must have a winning record in 2015 or Rhoads will be fired.

Thank God he cares about the football program and has some goals and expects accountability. Haven't heard this from Pollard. I haven't been a Leath fan, but he is right on this.

I'm guessing this could be a good cop (jp) and bad cop (leath) situation. To play to both sides.

I think the timing could have been better if he would have waited until after signing day. But maybe they are thinking Mangino was looking to leave. So they plant the seed in his head without privately telling him as he could harpoon the situation.

If they keep Mangino they wwouldn't have to buy out the offensive coaches salaries. Although I'm sure that is the least of their worries and most contracts are probably up next year anyways.
 
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I'm guessing this could be a good cop (jp) and bad cop (leath) situation.

No. It's NONE of that. He answered the same way every university president would answer in a wide-ranging interview on all the different aspects of one's university.
 

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No. It's NONE of that. He answered the same way every university president would answer in a wide-ranging interview on all the different aspects of one's university.

Yes - just watched the interview on Iowa Press. Leath likes Rhoads a lot - even admires him, with the way he does things. But he said with a "figurative shrug" - you do have to win.
 

ljm4cy

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I'm guessing this could be a good cop (jp) and bad cop (leath) situation.

Agree. Leath expects a turnaround next season. I'd interpret this to mean a minimum of 4-5 wins and respectability on the field as ISU progresses to the goal of consistent winning seasons. I do not believe Leath has given Rhoads or Pollard a nearly impossible ultimatum of a 7-5 season in 2015.
 

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I'm guessing this could be a good cop (jp) and bad cop (leath) situation. To play to both sides.

I think the timing could have been better if he would have waited until after signing day. But maybe they are thinking Mangino was looking to leave. So they plant the seed in his head without privately telling him as he could harpoon the situation.

If they keep Mangino they wwouldn't have to buy out the offensive coaches salaries. Although I'm sure that is the least of their worries and most contracts are probably up next year anyways.

I think you are analyzing this way too much. These answers are not so elaborately planned.
 

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The bolded is why Leath said it IMO. After JP's "stand by CPR" comments, if Leath had said nothing or had done the same, some donors would have sat next year out. Hell, look at this board alone; tons of people want CPR gone and think ISU administration is just satisfied with mediocrity. Leath is speaking out against that idea and sometimes leaders need to say something controversial in order to shape the direction. I like it

Here is what Pollard said:

“In the end, we’ve got to get better,” Pollard said. “It’s a game of results. Coach knows that, I know that, everybody knows that. But, we’re closer to it than I think we’re further away, and we look forward to continuing to climb that mountain.”

Contrast that with Leath's comments. Leath basically threw Rhoads and even Pollard under the bus and drove over them. So far it appears that Leath is in over his head. Fire him and get a great President of ISU like Dr. Geoffrey.
 

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might be afraid Pollard won't have the balls to make a move next year if PR wins 2-3 games again. Pretty strong statement against both of them, not just the coach.

Not even close to a Leath fan, but there's still a reason he made these comments. If Pollard gets too attached to his hires he might be walking too.

Could be something to this and Leath is publicly distancing himself from JP's statement of support for CPR. The football program has struggled badly under JP and we don't really know how strong the support is among the big donors that JP be given a chance to choose a 3rd head coach in a decade to replace failing ones if that becomes necessary next year.
 

CYKOFAN

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Agree. Leath expects a turnaround next season. I'd interpret this to mean a minimum of 4-5 wins and respectability on the field as ISU progresses to the goal of consistent winning seasons. I do not believe Leath has given Rhoads or Pollard a nearly impossible ultimatum of a 7-5 season in 2015.

I think 4-5 wins is very possible next year, but won't do us much good if recruiting is going poorly. Hopefully there's somebody that can evaluate how recruiting is going and the overall condition inside the program.
 
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