***Post game thread- ISU vs Cincy***

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Woke up mad as hell about the **** foul they called on Bowie that gave them the winning free throws. In a highly physical game like that, calling an inconsequential touch foul (initiated by the offensive player) with three seconds left on the shot clock was asinine. Great defense by Bowie that should have left them with nothing but a wild shot.
 

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Looking ahead and I'm not sure this team can put together an NCAA quality resume. Beating Cincy was really important.

Let's say this team finishes the non-con strong at 10-2. If Miami doesn't make the tourney, not a single one of those ten wins will be quality. And ISU scheduled really bad mid-major schools who have no shot of adding RPI depth like Georgia Southern or Chattanooga in years past. So ISU would need quality Big 12 wins, which at this point with our rebounding, I'd give zero chance of beating KU, BU, or WVU. That's 0-6. ISU would need to win 9 of the remaining 12 conference games just to get to 19-11. Yikes.

There is a lot of season and quality games left, but this could get away from ISU fast.

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Woke up mad as hell about the **** foul they called on Bowie that gave them the winning free throws. In a highly physical game like that, calling an inconsequential touch foul (initiated by the offensive player) with three seconds left on the shot clock was asinine. Great defense by Bowie that should have left them with nothing but a wild shot.

He threw his head back like he got punched in the face. You can say refs have a hard job and "real time" and whatever else but if you can't tell that was football acting from about 5 feet away then you shouldn't be reffing anything.
 

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There are a lot of ifs in that game - however, there are more IMO for cincy. They only shot 3-21 from 3, and their looks were frequently WIDE open after kickouts from our double teams.

I'm pleased with the defense. It's better than I thought it could be. However, my overreaction last night is partly due to the absolute ineptitude on offense overall. And it doesn't have that much to do with just last night.

We've played 4 games against teams in the top 150 or so. In those four ISU is shooting 38.8% overall, and 32.6% from 3. The tempo has dropped to the 150 range. This isn't just an overhaul on defense, this is team that is unrecognizable from what we've seen in the last 5 years.

I'm not a total sky is falling guy, but we have basically no more opportunities for good wins the rest of the noncon. Losing a game like Iowa, which is on the road and certainly possible, would put this team in a position where it absolutely has to make hay in conference play.

I expected a step back, but if anybody was expecting just awful offense and to be a bubble team before the year they had what I think is pretty low expectations.
 
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I didn't like the Bowie call because that's rarely made there. But it wasn't great defense and it was a foul. You can't extend the arms across the body.
 
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Woke up mad as hell about the **** foul they called on Bowie that gave them the winning free throws. In a highly physical game like that, calling an inconsequential touch foul (initiated by the offensive player) with three seconds left on the shot clock was asinine. Great defense by Bowie that should have left them with nothing but a wild shot.

That was an easy call. Put both hands on him after trying to reach in. It was a good call
 
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That was an easy call. Put both hands on him after trying to reach in. It was a good call

The announcers disagreed with the call. The Cincy player lowered the shoulder into him and then threw his head back like he'd been killed. At any rate, if they're going to call that kind of contact, there would have been 70 fouls in that game.
 

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The thing that is weird is Prohm said before the season is he wants them to play at an even higher tempo yet they are playing pretty slow and not pushing the ball.
They only had 5 assists last night. That is really bad basketball. my question is this the Offense that Prohm wants? We know he used a lot of Fred's stuff last year but I thought it would continue.

You have bad play calls, bad shot selection, and horrible ball movement. Props on getting them to play better defense but it's like he totally neglected the offense now. Hopefully they get things figured out. Oh yeah and rebounding was crap last night as well. Would have helped to have Young available.
 
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The announcers disagreed with the call. The Cincy player lowered the shoulder into him and then threw his head back like he'd been killed. At any rate, if they're going to call that kind of contact, there would have been 70 fouls in that game.
If you watch the play you can see the foul despite what the announcers said.
 
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If you watch the play you can see the foul despite what the announcers said.
Normally that was a foul and should be called. With that said they were allowed to body us up on every single drive and not get called for a foul. We didn't deserve to win but that officiating especially at the end was attrocious.
 
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Was it technically a foul? Sure. Do you usually see that light of contact called with 3 seconds to go on the shot clock in the very late end of an overtime game? Nope.
I agree. I think it was probably a foul by the definition of a foul. But in a physical game and in that situation I thought it was a lousy call.
 
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Normally that was a foul and should be called. With that said they were allowed to body us up on every single drive and not get called for a foul. We didn't deserve to win but that officiating especially at the end was attrocious.

Exactly this. It's always the same, fans aren't asking for the moon, just consistency. Ref apologists make it seem like that is just note ealistic even though it happens in about 75% of games. Was anyone ******** about officials after the Gonzaga game? No.
 

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Refs also missed a foul on Burtons late put back after the Morris miss. He got smacked right across the chest and shoulder but didn't flinch cause he is so strong. Should have been and one.
Oh and what the fk was Thomas doing at the end of Reg with that turnover???
 
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