Podcast CycloneAlert and Pollard: Message to Fans

NetflixAndClone

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too many fans think they have actual knowledge or insight into sports. Too many think they know better than the people in charge. Plenty of our fans are arrogant ********.

We all remember the Alamo bowl but things got plenty ugly around here after the Texas game and after the Baylor, k state, and drake games.

We all know how ugly it got on here during a 23 win basketball season.

Read the comments on an Iowa State athletics facebook post after a loss. It’s a cesspool filled with ********. I can’t imagine the vile stuff a lot of you email our coaches.
Hell CW was getting hate DMs sent to him after our ohio State loss hoping for harm against his daughter iirc. Just imagine the crap that was sent to the coaches.

With success comes terrible fans. (Not excusing it). It makes me pissed to see it since we are so much better as a fan base. When THT declared for the draft I saw an Iowa State fan respond to his tweet with “you are going to be a career g leaguer” if that fan is on here you can go **** yourself and stop being a fan. How about you try and support our guys that go out there and play for ISU.
 

Die4Cy

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It is important to remember that for the most part, social media exists to amplify emotion. What you see there is not real life. I think the people who overreact to everything need to be reminded of this constantly.

This is a hobby, no one really cares what you or I think, if you don't enjoy it you should try something different.
 
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It is important to remember that for the most part, social media exists to amplify emotion. What you see there is not real life. I think the people who overreact to everything need to be reminded of this constantly.

This is a hobby, no one really cares what you or I think, if you don't enjoy it you should try something different.

No your rong we can not except the mediocrity online!
 

CyGuy5

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Jesus Christ. Read this place after the Iowa football game. Read it especially after the tcu game.

Everyone was losing their **** on Zeb, and of course the o line.

I think everyone here can agree that Zeb was not good, and neither was the oline. Both of those were warranted. Both of those games were very winnable, obviously its frustrating for all of us to watch, but after the way the season turned out it’s hard to have complaint when it was one of the best in school history
 

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Was just going to ask this. I was always told he wanted to stay but the old ISU AD refused to give him a pay raise and extension and just told him to take the Ohio State job instead.

As someone who was actually alive back then and going to games, I'd like to clear up the wild, revisionist history posted here about why Earl Bruce left ISU.

Woody Hayes lost his mind and punched a Clemson player on the OSU sideline in a bowl game--he got fired. Earl got called home to Ohio St, where he was on Woody's staff. It was the pre-TV contract $ era, so Ohio State's resources dwarfed anything at Iowa State. It's just that simple. No, fans didn't run him off.

Yes, Lou McCullough (the AD) could be tight, but he had limited resources. The Jack had only been open 3 years and still wasn't paid for. And remember, he's the guy that found the $ (along with Dr. Parks) and got Johnny Orr away from Michigan.

No grassy knoll, no Roswell.
 

NATEizKING

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I've never ignored anyone on here in over 8 years but maybe it's time to start silencing the type of people JP is talking about.

Deleting Facebook and opting out of in-state rivals over 3 years ago made following ISU and life in general way more enjoyable.

I've wasted too much time on idiots on here.
 

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I think everyone here can agree that Zeb was not good, and neither was the oline. Both of those were warranted. Both of those games were very winnable, obviously its frustrating for all of us to watch, but after the way the season turned out it’s hard to have complaint when it was one of the best in school history

Wow
 
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Cydkar

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too many fans think they have actual knowledge or insight into sports. Too many think they know better than the people in charge. Plenty of our fans are arrogant ********.

We all remember the Alamo bowl but things got plenty ugly around here after the Texas game and after the Baylor, k state, and drake games.

We all know how ugly it got on here during a 23 win basketball season.

Read the comments on an Iowa State athletics facebook post after a loss. It’s a cesspool filled with ********. I can’t imagine the vile stuff a lot of you email our coaches.

It's more of an issue with Facebook, message boards, and Twitter, than anything else. All 3 are, and always will be, cesspools. I'm guilty of partaking on message boards.
 

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I couldn't decide whether to like or dislike your comment. Of course adults should be able to take constructive criticism, and CMC and CSP strike me as the type of people who do so. That doesn't mean it's the fans job to deliver that criticism in the harsh way you see it here and on social media. That's certainly not "helpful", and I think it's wise of JP to try to get us to see that. It's one thing to have discussions/debates on coaching decisions, play calls, strategies and tactics, playing time of players, yada yada yada . . . but honestly it is appalling some of the things some people say and pretend they are actually "fans".

On the other hand, I completely agree with you that the fans who go after players are just awful. No excuse for that whatsoever.

If an internet message board is hurtful to an adult making millions of dollars per year, then should we even have these message boards?
 
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Cat Stevens

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If an internet message board is hurtful to an adult making millions of dollars per year, then should we even have these message boards?

I get that you aren’t a critical thinker. But if you can’t see the difference between criticizing coaching strategy, and some of the **** that that was said about them personally, then I’m going to guess you were one of the jag offs that tweeted and wrote the ****.

You probably tweeted at Elijah Johnson after the ku game too.
 

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Jamie must never read the #BBN comments on Twitter after Kentucky looses in Basketball. I think it's less about the fans and more about social media and our society getting mean. Users can hide behind their social media and internet postings with anonymous names

Kentucky is Kentucky. They have the banners. We do not have the banners but people seem to think we do. That's the problem.

JP is right. This fan base has eroded as success has come.
 
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Tre4ISU

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I think everyone here can agree that Zeb was not good, and neither was the oline. Both of those were warranted. Both of those games were very winnable, obviously its frustrating for all of us to watch, but after the way the season turned out it’s hard to have complaint when it was one of the best in school history

Listen, saying "X is not going well or Y didn't play well or I wish Z would change this" is a whole lot different than calling for heads or messaging players/coaches things. I don't think anyone is asking for a full stop on criticism. It's the unfair standards some have combined with the personal attacks that is bad. I've said it over and over but I think Prohm will only take so much **** like he got this year and then he'll leave. Of course, that's useless to even say because the people giving that **** think it'd be great if he left.
 

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Raising ticket prices, stadium expansions, club seating expansions, cyclone only paid content media.... People are being asked and expected to be more invested than ever. Monetarily and emotionally.. When you ask for that and get it in spades from the fans they expect things in return.

Gone are the days of easy to get hill seats, cheap mini packs in football and basketball, cheap end zone seats, Hilton corner seats, etc.

Can't be all take and no give.

Not bashing JP at all because he's done excellent but this could be a slippery slope.

I would recommend if this is approach the department wants to take they need to focus intensely on the fan experience and fan amenities. If the department was loyalty and humbleness to be some corner stones of the fan base they need to find a way to show fan appreciation in ways other schools cannot.

That is just my 2 cents on how not to lose the culture.
 
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