Parking lot changes by Jack Trice and Reiman Gardens

[Ms3r4ISU]

As part of the stadium explansion and landscaping to tie the stadium and Reiman Gardens area together for a "grand" entrance to ISU from the south, changes are in store for lot S3 and nearby ground.

From Inside Iowa State today http://www.inside.iastate.edu/article/2016/03/31/stadium

The football parking map has the green space included https://admin.xosn.com//share/ViewP...&LOAD_IMAGE_ID=213677457&LOAD_IMAGE_SIZE=1024

 

[Freebird]

I love Reiman Gardens and am grateful for the gift that allowed the expansion but losing 400 close, paved parking spaces really sucks.

 

[Skidoosh]

so its going to be a little park inbetween two parking lots? curious to see what the plans turn out to be

 

[VeloClone]

I realize that it is flood plain, but I am surprised that the university hasn't come up with a solution to add a lot between S-8 and the intersection of S. 3rd and Elwood (University).

 

[chuckd4735]

Isnt the AD still working to get control of the Intramural Fields? I thought I heard they were trying to trade the ground at the Southwest Athletic Complex for this?

 

[wxman1]

Most of that was Media or handicap parking so to my knowledge they will not be displacing many.

 

[ajk4st8]

I wonder if there would be room for another paved parking lot somewhere close to JTS??? Is there any thought or plan for that in the long term?

 

[CyAg]

They are displacing many. All of s4 is gone and s3 is suites only. Overall 400 donor parking stalls gone. There will be massive changes for all this years as it ripples through lot assignments.

With s7 being club reserved, they are advising that it will likely take directors level (maybe high victory) to park close to the stadium.

 

[SCNCY]

Isnt the AD still working to get control of the Intramural Fields? I thought I heard they were trying to trade the ground at the Southwest Athletic Complex for this?

I am not sure what is happening now, but when I was in college (2006-2010) the AD wanted to trade the intramural fields by towers with the Sothwest Athletic Complex. They wanted the trade so they could build the track/soccer/softball complex. Which they did do. As far as I know, Rec Services now owns the previous Southwest Athletic Complex.

I was on a club/committee that heard and was involved with the discussions around this.

 

[theshadow]

Most of that was Media or handicap parking so to my knowledge they will not be displacing many.

S3 was almost all high-roller parking, thanks to spaces lost in 85W due to the FB building.

S2 was the handicapped lot, and media were shipped out to G9 (which didn't even appear on the map as of last year).

 

[BikeSkiClone]

1. Even if the parking was for media, high rollers, or people with disabilities, they'll just be moved to another lot and it will trickle down through the other lot placements

2. Can we stop using the word "Handicapped" to refer to people and/or parking spots? It's almost as bad the r-word in many contexts, say in anything but bowling or golf. It has an unnecessarily negative connotation toward people who are just like you and me -- we all have our differences. I haven't been back to Iowa for a while so I'm not sure if they've made this move, but out here (east coast) nearly every parking spot sign has been replaced with "Accessible Parking" and the new universal accessibility logo. The spot itself is not handicapped. The spot itself is not disabled. The spot itself is accessible (to people with disabilities). /Rant from someone who works with and advocates daily for people with disabilities

 

[Me State]

2. Can we stop using the word "Handicapped" to refer to people and/or parking spots? It's almost as bad the r-word in many contexts, say in anything but bowling or golf. It has an unnecessarily negative connotation toward people who are just like you and me -- we all have our differences. I haven't been back to Iowa for a while so I'm not sure if they've made this move, but out here (east coast) nearly every parking spot sign has been replaced with "Accessible Parking" and the new universal accessibility logo. The spot itself is not handicapped. The spot itself is not disabled. The spot itself is accessible (to people with disabilities). /Rant from someone who works with and advocates daily for people with disabilities

 

[stateofmind]

1. Even if the parking was for media, high rollers, or people with disabilities, they'll just be moved to another lot and it will trickle down through the other lot placements

2. Can we stop using the word "Handicapped" to refer to people and/or parking spots? It's almost as bad the r-word in many contexts, say in anything but bowling or golf. It has an unnecessarily negative connotation toward people who are just like you and me -- we all have our differences. I haven't been back to Iowa for a while so I'm not sure if they've made this move, but out here (east coast) nearly every parking spot sign has been replaced with "Accessible Parking" and the new universal accessibility logo. The spot itself is not handicapped. The spot itself is not disabled. The spot itself is accessible (to people with disabilities). /Rant from someone who works with and advocates daily for people with disabilities

I appreciate your thoughts on this issue, I'm glad that we are trying as a society to treat all people more equal and to be more sensitive to one another. It's odd in these same times to see the ugliness/meanness of anonymous people in our social interactions online. We live in an odd social time, it will be interesting to see where we are as I grow old.

This revitalization to our parking will improve the entrance to both Reiman Gardens and Jack Trice. If we all get moved out a few spaces in lieu of that, I'm personally OK with that. We have some of the best parking for events in all the world if you ask me. (1st world problems I guess)

 

[klamath632]

This logo is offensive to Derrick Rose fans.

 

[MeanDean]

It used to be Gimps, then Invalids, then Handicapped. Now Handicapped is becoming no longer socially acceptable.

None of the terms were ever disrespectful in their original intent, just determined to be socially unacceptable by society over time.

Politically correct is nothing new...

 

[BikeSkiClone]

"Handicapable" is an interesting term in disability-related studies and professions. There is a rather strong divide amongst people with disabilities re: whether they like the term or not. As a professional and student in a disability-related field, I can advocate, research, present information all day long, but as someone without a disability, I cannot speak completely on their behalf because I do not know what it is like. Of the people I have worked with or am friends with, most don't like the word but some are okay with it. The "nothing about us without us" idea is also quite common amongst people with disabilities.

I appreciate your thoughts on this issue, I'm glad that we are trying as a society to treat all people more equal and to be more sensitive to one another. It's odd in these same times to see the ugliness/meanness of anonymous people in our social interactions online. We live in an odd social time, it will be interesting to see where we are as I grow old.

I don't think anybody was trying to be mean in this thread (or at least that's my hope). Honestly, five years ago when I was still in undergrad, I definitely said things that today make me cringe. Just three years ago I first heard about “Person First Language” and I still catch myself sometimes phrasing things in ways that could be stated more appropriately. PFL isn’t even 100% agreed upon amongst those with disabilities -- though the 'more severe' examples are almost universally frowned upon by those with disabilities. Some things are relatively minor, some really make people cringe. Again, one of those things I can’t relate to because I’m not in their shoes. None of us are perfect. But we can be aware and make honest attempts to learn a little bit more about other people and how to respect them with our words.

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

It used to be Gimps, then Invalids, then Handicapped. Now Handicapped is becoming no longer socially acceptable.

None of the terms were ever disrespectful in their original intent, just determined to be socially unacceptable by society over time.

Politically correct is nothing new...

So which term do you prefer? I bet I know.

 

[somecyguy]

This logo is offensive to Derrick Rose fans.

That's OK. Derrick Rose is offensive to basketball fans.

 

[MeanDean]

So which term do you prefer? I bet I know.

Because I called you out for inserting political attacks in a non-cave thread you think you have me pegged?

I truly enjoy your posts on football. Please just keep the politics in the cave. That's all.

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

so those gardens....