Pac-12 to decide whether to expand within a couple weeks
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NE Colorado when you drop off 80 to head to Denver isn't anything glorious either. Basically hilly grasslands, deserted gas stations, and prisons.
Superman was born on the Planet of Krypton. Superman was a refugee. Alien. Nothing hurt in that wasteland of Kansas when his rocket ship crashed.
We were in Cheyenne for the frontier days a couple of weeks ago. What a wonderful experience.
tell everyone how you don’t understand how athletic department funding works without saying you don’t understand how athletic department funding works
Whoops, wasn’t specific enough. Dropping off around Ogallala, Nebraska. Is that 75 that heads south?
In the context of this topic we are discussing a value a team has to a conference, so it does not. Revenue for an AD is based on:
-Media dollars, which is overwhelmingly a function of the blue bloods in the league
-Donations and other AD revenue that is not distributed to the others in the league
-And for some schools (not Iowa and ISU) the University puts a good chunk of general funds toward athletics.
So none of that directly brings value to other conference members. And has been shown ad nauseum on here, when you do an apples to apples comparison of ratings, Iowa is not going to juice a media contract. They are just decent inventory. It’s all OSU, PSU, Michigan and Wisconsin.
As someone that used to make that drive 4-5 times a year I can confirm that the Eastern 1/4 or 1/5 of CO sucks balls.
I've been checked out on the daily speculation mill since this all came down. The last round of this 10 years ago was enough for me to digest for a lifetime.
I keep coming back to just one thought. Get Campbell locked into a long term massive contract now and win games regardless of ISU landing in the Pac, the B1G, or where ever else.
I keep coming back to just one thought. Get Campbell locked into a long term massive contract now and win games regardless of ISU landing in the Pac, the B1G, or where ever else.
He was actually born in Woolstock, IA. Just kidding I know the story.
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Before the advent of CFB conference Championship games, ISU would have won the conference in 2020; since they won the regular season. ui has done that and is the only format they’ve won a title in.
You have to go… you can’t hope for better and risk not being in a power conference.
long term, lots can happen. If big10 wants ISU…. Being in the pac is not going to change that. If they don’t.. then pac is much better then other options.
Come on, genius. Part of that is due to league television contracts which give said programs (currently) a huge advantage over USC. The article also places a lot of value in program relevance, which USC really hasn't had of late either. Then there may be factors like "exposure" where USC is hurt by late PST games nobody watches.
In a vaccum is the USC brand more valuable than the other schools? Sure. But there is actually a really good chance that all of those schools have more loyal fans/followers than USC does. As for Clemson and FSU they are obviously dragged down by lackluster TV deals. Also the latter hasn't been relevant since Jimbo left.
Seems pretty obvious that TV dollars is the starter for the baseline, then brand recognition, and recent success play a large factor here. This article isn't about which schools would get picked to start a new conference that was all about money and brands, it's about evaluating programs based on the landscape of football at that time. Based on that I'd say it was fairly accurate.
Agree. The other p4 conferences not inviting remaining teams will keep the current b12 together for as long as possible. It is going to be difficult for OU/tx to get out before the gor expires. This is not the same as previous rounds of expansion. The best path for OU/tx is to dissolve the big 12 to eliminate the gor. It if the other conferences do not add from the remaining 8 until the exit date is finalized the conference will continue and the gor will be an issue until it expires.
the good news is that would keep big 12 money coming in and buy some time for us to sell the program to a new conference.
more important then ever to support the athletic dept and continue to drive additional development of the facilities and fill up the stadiums…
What's the point of arguing this?
We didn't win our conference, end of story. As currently constructed the champion is determined by who wins the championship game. We didn't do that. It doesn't diminish the success of the season but saying "well we WOULD have been champs if" is lame.
Really any fan who trashes ISU or Iowa on that is an asshat. Iowa was in shambles before they hired Fry and again before they hired Ferentz. Iowa State was in shambles before they hired Campbell. Other than time (with which Iowa is fortunate to have unrivaled stability) there are more similarities in the programs than there are differences, including both fan bases having their fair share of delusional fans.
Perception is reality in today's world, by standing pat and doing nothing, the Big 10 falls further behind the SEC. They are not required to expand, but waiting for the ACC members "ND" to see the light in 2035 is a losing strategy.
The Pac 12 will move to expand first, they have to, or they are going to lose USC and their other major players in the conference. Once those invites goes out, and yes, KU and ISU will be getting two of those invites, then the Big 10 will have to decide. "Do we stand pat, and lost out on the only 2 AAU schools left, or make them an offer to gone the Big 10?"
Doing nothing, shows weakness and basically giving up, the Pac 12 becomes a stronger conference with the 4 to 6 new schools in the Central Time zone, and while not a threat to overtake the Big 10, they become a larger problem for the league than they are now.
Makes sense to me. If I was at the table and being paid big bucks to decide this stuff I'd push to open up the Central Time Zone in spite of the distances created by adding any member of the remaining Big 12. ISU can re-establish a game with Colorado, and we'd be sitting between Nebraska and Iowa, and next door to Minnesota, Wisconsin and Missouri. Establishing a beach head in Iowa with Iowa's largest university would be entertaining and rewarding.
The folks in the Eastern Time Zone consider Iowa a flyover state if they can even place it all on a map. Let's go big with the Pac 12 and move our focus west. I'm sure CMC could still recruit heavily in the Midwest and sell kids on the possibility of playing the big name west coast schools.
But, what do I know?
