Ohio State
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Agreed. https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/stans-herbstreit-column.260295/page-3#post-7448492
"...go to eight teams. Talked about before. You could do it two ways: 1) Seed the top 8, then #1 plays 8, 2 vs. 7, etc., three rounds. Or, 2) Continue to have the top 4 play each other in the first 2 rounds, just like now. Seeds 5-8 also play two rounds, each other. After 2 rounds of that, the Final (round 3). You have one team from the top 4 playing one team from the next 4, winner take all.
I like option 2 best? You'd still get the excitement of the two games from top 4. Plus the Final game would verify the champion from an initial list of 8 schools instead of 4. The final might not be as good as the semi-final top 4 game, but someone in the top 8 still has an outside chance of going all the way. Kind of convoluted but works for me."
Another reason I like option 2, is that you would never get the #1 playing #8, #2 vs. 7, #3 vs. 6, and #4 vs. 5. If you were a #8 seed, had a great season, the last thing you might want is for your first playoff game (and likely final game) to have to play the #1 seed! Same for #2 vs. #7. It would be very unfair for the #8 and #7 teams. Give them a chance to go another round, and maybe all the way!
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Its been crazy. They did win league since CMC left. Recruiting still solid. Another year I think they were using 3rd string QB due to injuries. Not a trend up or down, just all over the place.
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Not sure who the other Hawk guy is on KXNO on Wed. night, but I got in the car and one of them was trashing the Big 10 for how it's handled all of this, and then said when he tried to watch Big 10 games this Saturday it was "just plain bad football."
Coastal Carolina now playing BYU this weekend after Liberty had COVID issues. BYU gets their chance. If they humiliate Coastal on the road that would at least give them a bit of ammo to move up.
I don't get why it is fairer for the #4 seed to have to play the #1 seed right off the bat and if they win their reward is to play the #2 or #3 seed while the #5 seed would play the #8 seed and their reward for winning would be to play the #6 or #7 seed. Here are the easiest, chalk and hardest routes to the championship for those teams in your scenario:
Easiest
#4 plays #1, #3, #8 (not likely)
#5 plays #8, #7, #1
Other games go chalk
#4 plays #1, #2, #5
#5 plays #8, #6, #1
Hardest
#4 plays #1, #2, #5
#5 plays #8, #6, #1
In every scenario a team (5 seed) is rewarded for being a worse team than another team (4 seed). Actually, the 5 seed is given an easier route than any of the top 4 seeds. That just doesn't make sense.
Only Iowa fans would be disappointed that their top 8 team got a chance to prove it on the field if they were a 5-8 seed in a playoff.
Well my scenario #2 as you deftly renumerated above, is more unfair to the top 4 seeds yes. You are right. That's why it will never happen. Scenario #1 is the standard and most fair. The top seeds should have the easier route to the final.
My thinking was a novel, something different with option #2. Mainly I was thinking of two things. With option #2 you will still have the top 4 play in the first 2 rounds, just like now, so what's the harm. They, the top 4, would just continue doing what they are already are doing. They would just add a final game (round 3) at the end against a #5-8 team.
My second thought is that a #7 or 8 seeded team (maybe ISU could still fall into that category), after having a great season, would have to play a #1 or 2 seed in their first game, in option 1. Chances of winning that lone first game are less. If they played their first game against a #5 or 6 team,option 2, they would have a better chance of winning.
Currently, in a 4 team playoff system, a #7 or 8 team would be invited to a nice bowl against a similarly ranked team. They wouldn't have to play a #1 or 2 in their Bowl. And they would actually have a chance of winning their lone Bowl game.
That's my thought pattern anyway. Just thinking outside the box. And like I said, my favorite, option 2, would never happen. Your reaction proved it.
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Agree with jcisu above if go 16 teams. On other hand 16 teams is a lot of games for amateur athletes to have to play. Four teams would have to play 3 games each and the final two would have played 4 games to figure a national champ.
Sombody making a lot of money, none of it to the student athletes. Another argument I guess.
Speaking as a father of three college age students, a full ride schollie with training table seems like payment!
I saw Herbie play in person when he was a Buckeye. I saw him lead his Buckeyes to a 14-21 defeat at the hands of the Georgia Bulldogs in the 1993 Citrus Bowl. Later that night, he was able to watch Alabama beat Miami (Fla.) in the Sugar Bowl to win the National Championship.
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