This reads like a post of a fan from a non-AAU school
(checks Kansas State's AAU status)
***Official Big 12 Expansion Thread '16***
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This reads like a post of a fan from a non-AAU school
(checks Kansas State's AAU status)
Rather than searching for which good schools aren't in AAU, just go through the list of schools that are. I'd rather my school be in the company of those schools than the rest.
I actually selected ISU based on a US News ranking of the engineering school. But that was before I knew any better.
The last thing we need/want is BYU - they are basically Baylor with Texa$ size cash and influence.
People are overthinking AAU vs. Non-AAU.
The Big10 took Nebraska even though they knew Nebby was on shaky ground
The ACC took Louisville
Conference presidents will take schools which can best line their pockets. Four years ago there was alot of options, today there is not. So if conferences are determined to expand, they will "bend" their criteria.
IMO Big12 expansion is going to be contingent on ESPN/FOX agreeing to pay incremental revenue for schools added. The Networks could easily push back as their payments to the Big12 did not drop when the conference dropped from 12 to 10 teams.
I think there could be a compromise, with the Networks paying less than the full $20M for the new schools. Maybe giving the Big12 something like $10M for BYU and UConn and a lower annual payment (like $5M) for schools like Cincy and Houston.
My guess is Texas and Kansas to Big 10
ISU and WVU to ACC
OU, OSU to SEC
Tech, TCU, Baylor, and KSU to Pac-12
If you don't think university presidents care about the academic prestige of the schools that their school is most closely associated with, you are wrong.
didn't stop Louisville from joining. Don't think they'd add a UCONN over WVU. ISU would get in due to academics and getting somewhat of a foothold into the midwest markets (not saying ISU is a big market but it would help expand their footprint into that area). Plus the ACC is a big basketball conference and ISU has a decent basketball reputation now.
I'm curious if Pitt would try blocking WVU out. Not sure how that relationship is between the 2 schools.
My Pac-12 picks I'm not confident on but I can't see them adding a BYU, Boise St. or UNLV. They might add Colorado St. before Kansas St. but not sure Colorado would like that.
Why would the ACC want ISU over UConn? I think ISU lands somewhere but I didn't think all B12 teams will. I would be especially concerned if I was KSU or Baylor. I also believe if musical chairs is being played and the last song comes on, BYU gets added to the pool, most likely to the PAC 12. Houston and Cincinnati will be considered as well.
This is not ever happening. There is a reason why the Pac 12 took Utah - because they're not BYU.
BYU, Baylor, and TCU will NEVER be in PAC. Do you guys not understand anything??? They would stay at less members before this happens.
I don't expect Iowa State in ACC, certainly not before UConn & West Virginia, unless ACC goes beyond 16 and also takes Kansas. I just don't see it going that far west.
So I'd guess Big Ten or Pac-12 before that.
So I'd guess Big Ten or Pac-12 before that.
Unfortunately I think TCU would get picked before us (ACC). They deliver the Dallas market and have some very fertile recruiting grounds nearby.
If your FSU, Clemson, etc, you would rather open up your league to Texas than to Iowa.
No it doesn't. Academics is a factor just like football success, fan base, geography, etc. It is not irrelevant as you claim. It is also not the sole determinant.
I think it is silly to say otherwise considering that 10 university presidents are going to be the group that ends up making this decision. Each of them would love to add schools that, all else being equal, were Carnegie I, AAU members, highly ranked by USNWR, etc. The presidents believe that the conference's academic prestige reflects in some way on its own members, including their school.
If TCU delivers the Dallas market, why did no major conference other than the Big 12 (besides a desperate Big East that eventually eliminated football as a result of realignment) ever consider bringing them into the conference? In fact, why has no major conference other than the Big 12 ever considered bringing in schools such as SMU, Houston, and Rice? Could it possibly be because they DON'T deliver those TV sets like you claim?
