BYU game was crazy last year too. Our defensive intensity for that game was off the charts, we just wore them out by the end. Crowd was at 100 almost entire second half. That was the one I made it too and completed the perfect season at Hilton.
Official Announcement of TJ as the New Iowa State Mens BBall Coach
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But how does he stack up against Lynn Nance . . . .
Per a 2006 article, the University was seeking it's first ever season with 10,000 season tickets. Was at 9947, an increase of over 1000 from 2005.
2014 - season tickets sales was a then record of 11,880 sold
2015 - broke the record again with 12,173
I see you were a douche 4 years ago too.
I see this thread got bumped. TJ is pretty cool. I've seen him be a pretty goofy dude that can relate to the young guys on the team, but when it comes to game time he is all business and the players have nothing but total respect for the guy and listen to him. That's exactly what you want in a coach: relatable, but knows when it's time to put the hammer down, be the boss, and get everyone to buy into him. It won't be long until we land some top 25 players (ones that are actually good and not just potential like Omaha was) with how much noise this guy has made.
Wow, the comments on the 1st page. Just WOW lol
Then again, who can have foreseen that T.J. would be known as an elite coach just 3+ years later with two Sweet Sixteens to his credit and arguably the best team in America in Year 4. Crazy
Then again, who can have foreseen that T.J. would be known as an elite coach just 3+ years later with two Sweet Sixteens to his credit and arguably the best team in America in Year 4. Crazy
Should be digging up those posts and quoting them Figure out who got the closest from an optimistic point of view. More fun than looking for the negatives.
If TJ does something like make a final four this year, he will no longer be chasing Johnny. Even now, from a coaching standpoint, his first 4 years are more impressive than Johnny’s first 4.
Yes. I've said consistently for years, what ISU needed at the time of Orr's hire was someone to re-engage interest in the program. His charisma and "exciting style of basketball" helped for sure.
It was a slow climb with the transition, but "first wave" of his recruits succeeded. It hit a plateau (and no deep tournament runs), and had dips & inconsistency thereafter, although by then at least fans "cared."
The loss of Baugh/Mack in that late-'80s recruiting cycle didn't help, but even so the third wave was productive (including the overlapping Alexander-Thigpen then Hoiberg/Meyer/Michalik segment).
I’ll admit I was pretty negative. I don’t know if I’ve ever been happier to be proved wrong.
It’s crazy looking at Johnny’s history. From W/L he was not really that outstanding in the big picture. Really a .500 coach, but he had 20 win seasons right when he needed them to keep fans engaged.
I only read the first 10 pages and grabbed some optimistic ones, including mine.
So in TJ's first year, we did the Johnny Orr outing at Coldwater. And I was asking my buddies who they thought has been the best coach that coached ISU BB in the 2000s. Of course some/most said Larry, some said Fred. I said McD. He proved it at 2 schools. He lost the fans here after the Wes Johnson injury and never could recover. Anyway it was a fun conversation. About that time here comes TJ and I asked him the same question. I never got a straight answer but he agreed that it was a tough call between Fred and Greg. All this said, I'm guessing he wouldn't take credit as being the best that's done it here, which I would have to say is my vote now.
Speaking of arrogance...
Why do people feel the need to rush to judgement on things they have little information on? What credit do you get for being right? But look at the history of terrible snap judgements. Not just this thread but all over social media in all areas of life. Nobody knows the future, don't speak it as fact.
I agree, and was in the same boat. I feared Pollard was making a comfort hire but it proved to be the ultimate culture hire.
It's ok to eat crow on occasion!
Easy to agree. And add that from strictly a coaching standpoint, TJ's first four are better than Johnny's best four. Yet, he's not earned a future statue or hall of fame spot.
Every good Iowan knows that a coach can't be judged on his own record until everything is gone from the last regime. It takes like 16 years to really be judging basketball coaches on their own merit.
And he did that with sh*t facilities (minus Hilton) and zero budget in comparison to today.
I’d be curious to see what his peers had to deal with in the Big 8. I can’t imagine most of them had good facilities or budget in the 80s.
