And I would bet there isn't 1 person on this board that could get more than 5 points against either one of them playing make it take it to 15. Realistically most would be good to get 1.
My 6-2 235 lb -late 40's out of shape self could totally take either in one on one. No problem. I mean, what are they? 6-11 and 6'5? Shiiiiiiit.