*** Official #3 IOWA STATE vs Arizona State Game(Day) Thread ***
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Right now they have the 10th best odds in the Big 12 to even make the tournament. The Big 12 isn't getting 10, it's not the same conference as 2 of 3 years ago. They have some major work to do imo.
Not sure if this has already been posted but I see Tamin has a big wrap on his hand/thumb. What's up with that?
Hines tweet makes it sound like TL may have hurt his thumb some more
Hello from Tempe, where we're going to tip off in about 25 minutes. Based on my flight down here and the early arrivals to the arena, a big ISU contingent will be in the building this afternoon.
Tamin Lipsey's right thumb was even more taped up today than earlier this week - he's got it 'immobilized' with tape at the joint and then even more tape up through the top of the thumb. Not sure I've seen a shooting hand taped up quite like that before. Some background on Lipsey playing through pain and injury
Hello from Tempe, where we're going to tip off in about 25 minutes. Based on my flight down here and the early arrivals to the arena, a big ISU contingent will be in the building this afternoon.
Tamin Lipsey's right thumb was even more taped up today than earlier this week - he's got it 'immobilized' with tape at the joint and then even more tape up through the top of the thumb. Not sure I've seen a shooting hand taped up quite like that before. Some background on Lipsey playing through pain and injury
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I don't know too much about ASU hoops but the couple takeaways I have are this
1. They have an extremely talented freshman center. Glad we have the size and depth between Jackson and Chat. If one of them gets in foul trouble though that could be an issue.
2. They have been able to play good teams well for extended stretches, but they seem to always start to fade down the stretch. I could see this being similar to UCF where it suddenly breaks wide open and they can never bring it back.
1. They have an extremely talented freshman center. Glad we have the size and depth between Jackson and Chat. If one of them gets in foul trouble though that could be an issue.
2. They have been able to play good teams well for extended stretches, but they seem to always start to fade down the stretch. I could see this being similar to UCF where it suddenly breaks wide open and they can never bring it back.
Let me make their case in more detail.
There's plenty of games left, but RIGHT NOW they have a couple big wins and a better bubble resume. Their NET is not great but it is within striking distance.
Cincy BYU have better NET with literally ZERO wins of any significance. That's rough.
ASU at least has comparable talent to those winless teams as well, arguably better. So I'm not convinced ASU doesn't FINISH STRONGER too.
UCF has nice wins, but also is way too low in the NET.
So to YOUR point, I actually think it's possible ALL of our bubble teams miss the tournament, and we only get 7 (the big 3 + Tech and AZ, WVU and Baylor).
All I'm saying is if the season ended today, ASU is the only bubble team with a punchers chance to be the 8th. The other teams bubble teams would be DOA. I agree that I also think we do NOT get 10.
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I know this is probably in jest, but I think JT is in our top three 3pt shooters and has incredible range. I also think he is a liability on D.
Arguably having better predictives is better than having a better resume when you play in a league like the B12 and your goal is to make the tournament.
You'll get shots at big wins when top teams have to play on your home floor. If you are actually good enough you'll get a few.
Honestly that's been TJ and Jamie's game plan the last 3 years and it's worked. Obviously it will work against you if you are trying to get a top seed, but if you are fighting for a 9 seed and you are being compared to the 5th best Mountain West team or whatever, having similar computer numbers but Q1a wins is what gets you there.
Yeah it keeps you in the mix, for sure. I'm not even really talking about the future. I'm talking about to this point. I'll leave it to you guys to say how ASU finishes or not. That's anyone's guess.
I'm just evaluating their body of work to date, and trying to frame this game properly. Ppl are treating this game like its OK State or Colorado. That is wrong to do. I hope we roll them. But we'd be rolling a pretty decent team who is far from a basement dweller this year.
Side note: I think one factor too is this year's teams will finish the regular with about 10 ish quad 1 opportunities in conference. Last two years it was more like 14 or 15.
