***Official 2024 NCAA Men’s Basketball Tournament Thread***

Gunnerclone

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But the overall performance of a conference's teams in the post-season validates the strength of the conference. K-State and BYU haven't got us started out very well, but there are lots of games to be played.

It doesn’t validate anything because the season isn’t a one and done national tournament played on neutral courts. The only thing it validates is the people that can’t separate the two are dumb.

I think soccer fans get this better than anyone else. A PL team losing to a Championship club in the FA Cup doesn’t validate the strength of the Championship.
 

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I keep saying it but the top 4-5 are good teams, capable of beating all sorts of other teams.

After that it would be surprising to see lots of other teams compete...which is why they're not playing today or tomorrow.
-They have ONE (lower end) tier one team.
-ZERO tier 1A/tier 2 teams.
-ONE tier 3 team (Illionis) [worthy to be higher seeded and dangerous, but not a real threat to the elite teams]
-THREE solid honorable mention solid teams that can go either way (Neb Wisky MSU)
-everyone else is a mostly irrelevant bubble team or WORSE...

I'm biased but I think that's objectively been pretty accurate all year and still is.
 

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The NIT is not the Big 12 postseason. It is a postmortem referendum on which teams in the conference are interested in showing up. Oklahoma did not go. Would have won in the NCAA had they made it but might have lost to Princeton at home in the NIT. UCF lost an instate rivalry game after a brutal but successful season.

KSU's Fightin' SpyTangs are led by an emotionally incontinent spiritual midget with a mop fetish.

And BYU is a newcomer odd duck overachiever shooting team whose biggest shooter can't drink water or eat food during the day until the end of April.

So, conference play hasn't really started.
 

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If big 12 does great in NCAA tournament the narrative becomes "see, look how awesome the big 12 is"

If the big 12 does poor in the NCAA tournament then its -- " a one and done tournament doesn't decided how good a team is"

The truth every year is that no power 6 conference is really all that much better than the others. We spend way to much time trying to prop up this conference, or tear this one down. It's all about the same level of play.
 
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If big 12 does great in NCAA tournament the narrative becomes "see, look how awesome the big 12 is"

If the big 12 does poor in the NCAA tournament then its -- " a one and done tournament doesn't decided how good a team is"

The truth every year is that no power 6 conference is really all that much better than the others. We spend way to much time trying to prop up this conference, or tear this one down. It's all about the same level of play.

Nah, this aint it.

The tournament just adds data points. But we already have a bunch of other data points. And those say that the big 12 is clearly the best. An underperformance in the tournament might add more data points that weakens that a bit, or a good performance might strengthen it, but it really won't change the whole picture all that much.