I can't think of a single thing that went well last night.
Lipsey I guess but the bar is low.
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I can't think of a single thing that went well last night.
Lipsey I guess but the bar is low.
Yes, Hobierg's teams did lose on the road, but not alot of ugly blowouts, because they could score points. They just couldn't stop the other team from scoring, which played into the opponents' home-court advantage. As I mentioned above, living on either the offensive or defensive extreme doesn't seem to be the way to go if you want to be the conference champion.
At ISU you're probably going to have to pick one or the other for consistency and hope to catch lightning like '99-01.
I'd like to see if Tre King at least helps create some movement.
It was beyond horrible.
That is not a burn the tape situation. Force these guys to watch it repeatedly, all year. These games absolutely do matter. Really disappointed in the effort. Defensive rotations, hustling, rebounding, moving feet laterally, reacting to adversity and crowd noise - the worst of the TJ era so far. Seeing iowa "out-tough" Iowa State - that should bother TJ for awhile.
I understand,but remember when we had to take softball to win the series and the basketball team showed up to cheer them on?That was awesome although I do feel sorry for the Hawk athletes under see their sorry department leadership.
I was thinking this: there are times when 'burn the tape' is the answer but perhaps right now they need to hate themselves for a practice or two.
There’s a lot of care to spread around. I think Barta and Pollard should race. We know who would win that one.
Ya there was something wrong with the players attitudes. Minus Lipsey and Rob. Which is becoming a consistent trend in most areas of this team's performances.
I agree that it was unacceptable but I just don’t like bashing the kids and program when the only thing it has done is overachieve
Or they are better players, better coached or a hell of a lot more focused. Something anyway.
Owned...
Silver linings are hard to come by, but again, Lipsey in his first true road game just keeps passing the test. The development of Rob into a competent offensive player to go along with his energy, effort and defense is very impressive. And a say "development of..." giving credit to the coaches, and it's deserved, but Rob has clearly put in an absolute ton of work.
I have always defended TJ playing Rob last year for the reason that TJ believes correctly that for his teams to win they have to be consistently elite in practice. He feels Rob helps set and uphold that expectation, so he's going to reward it. I love it, but I loved it last year when Rob was out there air-banking 3 footers and bricking FTs.
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Yeah I like the fact that unlike TOE we don't boo our own players. Pretty sure they are trying their best 99% of the time or they would be replaced with someone else.
Some fans overreact, 1 game is not just a chapter on the season but the entire book in their mind. 1 game turns into trends. But does not mean that some chapters should not be re-written. Reasonable critiquing is fair, (not the end of the world approach a few take)
Sometimes teams get beat. Tennessee lost at home this year to a very pedestrian CU team, by double digits I think CU was up by 20 at one point. I am guessing those fans were calling for Rick Barnes head. Part of being a fan.
The new guys will learn from this and move on. You are not at St Bonnie's anymore.
Fran is pretty familiar with TJ, and Coach Green, he had a great game plane. And if a team shoots 52% or whatever it was from 3 you are going to get your butt kicked by just about any team you play. The one area where ISU failed was they let Iowa get a couple of open looks and hit the shots, shooting is contagious and everyone from Iowa last night caught the fever
Funny you mention that. They sort of forgot about their hero 1950s football coach that became their AD and consigned their football team to 20 years of utter despair. This condition is called "Evy Amnesia".
If ISU were scrapping along last night and defending like normal it would really be 'well what are you gonna do?' however it was just a bunch of slop.
There's been a trend of it in previous games for stretches and hopefully it gets corrected.
I just don't agree. Nothing about the offense looks broken, save for several guys jump shot and inability to make shots inside. Iowa did come out more intense that our guys did, so maybe from a preparation stand point I do agree, but schematically the offense didn't appear to be 'broken' like the poster I replied to was alluding.
Yeah those who have been making fun of Fran's recruiting and coaching have alot of egg on their faces and need to face reality. We all made fun of the Murray brothers being "big gets" out of high school, and they're both gonna be All Americans and lottery picks. The unathletic white Iowans they recruit consistently knock down their shots. The coach's kids who belong on mid-major rosters make smart, winning plays. And Fran for all his antics runs a high quality offense and his teams play motivated and focused. AND they always show up for their in-state rivalry games, whereas ISU has shown up once for this game since Niang was on the roster.
I'm not upset by ISU's bad shooting last night. You expect it and live with it. I'm upset that I saw the same motivation and effort levels that characterized the Prohm teams and basically says "i dont give a **** about this game and i dont want to be here"
Hopefully last night was just an anomaly regarding the intensity, effort, defensive rotations, rebounding, and overall lack of focus.
There's not as much 'keep the eyes forward and keep at it' -ness and we'll see if there's a shift there.
I AGREE THEY LOOKED LIKE A PROHM COACHED TEAM LAST NIGHT!!
You turned off the 'better' half. LOL
Honestly, that game was worth turning off. I was a glutton for punishment and watched the entire debacle.
