*** Official #18 IOWA STATE vs #13 Miami Pop-Tarts Bowl Game(Day) Thread ***

Lexclone

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Goodness! As a fan that endured the 80s and early-to-mid 90s, it is strange to read folks griping about where this program is at. Would I like more (like a more competitive Big XII championship performance)? Yes. Do I appreciate the build and health of the program now? H€LL, yeah!

The program is far from the laughing stock it was. It’s admired, does more with less, and is a source of pride for Cyclone Nation.

Thanks for a historic year, Clones!
 

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Goodness! As a fan that endured the 80s and early-to-mid 90s, it is strange to read folks griping about where this program is at. Would I like more (like a more competitive Big XII championship performance)? Yes. Do I appreciate the build and health of the program now? H€LL, yeah!

The program is far from the laughing stock it was. It’s admired, does more with less, and is a source of pride for Cyclone Nation.

Thanks for a historic year, Clones!
Just the fact that we are sitting here on Dec 29 talking about an 11 win season, beating Miami in a bowl game, and just played for a conference championship at Iowa State is remarkable. If you said in the 90s that this would happen, you would be the laughing stalk of college football. What CMC and staff has done here is unthinkable.
 

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Yeah, the Freyler one was correct. Way early he was grabbing the WR and holding him, before all the hand fighting went on.

The worst miss was down in the end zone on a ball Rocco threw away to the left, Burkle was getting bear hugged in the middle of the end zone. It wasn’t near where the pass was thrown, but was super obvious holding.
The refs were allowing holding all over the field, on the last Miami TD, their center put his hands around our Dlineman and throw him to the ground. Guy bear hugged him and the announcers were talking about what a great block it was.
Great win to finish the season,
 
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The play just previous to that where they marked the receiver short of the first down, and then they apparently never looked at it (ABC definitely didn’t give us a replay) was also sketchy. And the final drive, the run by Hansen that looked like a TD but then they went to replay and marked it short … that was probably the correct call, but instead of marking the ball at the one-inch line (where it clearly was when Hansen was down) they put it an entire half-yard back from the goal line.

The Cyclones overcame, thank goodness, but those were strange replay sequences. Was this the same replay crew that took away Va Tech’s Hail Mary catch and ignored targeting at Cal?
Whenever there is a replay review of a ball spot, they always round the location to the nearest half yard. Otherwise, they would need to use a tape measure on the field to spot the ball any more precisely.
 

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Just the fact that we are sitting here on Dec 29 talking about an 11 win season, beating Miami in a bowl game, and just played for a conference championship at Iowa State is remarkable. If you said in the 90s that this would happen, you would be the laughing stalk of college football. What CMC and staff has done here is unthinkable.
AND, CMC has built a program that appears to train his players for life and the long-term. It’s not a group anyone would have to hold their noses to root for.

Jamie’s enduring legacy should probably be helping to build and supporting a winning student-athlete AD. As a fan and graduate, just what I’d hoped for back during the Walden era and ads in The Daily looking for long snappers.
 
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Correct, nobody even talked about it. There is not one team in the country missing two NFL guys that was going to slow him down. If you think about it, we maybe had 4 starters left on defense in that game. Heacock had nobody left. What he did with that defense given the injury situation is incredible this year.
The two turnovers, (not counting the desperation interception), were the key. With how the offense was operating, they were just enough to make the difference even though generally the defense could at best slow the Miami offense. With or without Ward.
 
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Whenever there is a replay review of a ball spot, they always round the location to the nearest half yard. Otherwise, they would need to use a tape measure on the field to spot the ball any more precisely.
I did not know that.

However, I have worked chain gang for high school games, and I am keenly aware the whole ball-placement thing is not anything close to an exact science, more like a best guess. :)
 
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I did not know that.

However, I have worked chain gang for high school games, and I am keenly aware the whole ball-placement thing is not anything close to an exact science, more like a best guess. :)

I expect mistakes spotting the ball live. When they are 3-4 feet wrong using replay I really wonder how it’s possible.

The overturned touchdown should have been about 6 inches away…then three inches with the half distance penalty….they put the ball almost at the one. The replay ref must half said he was down near the 2 yard line!!!!! Just insane how far off the line they moved that ball when call on the field was td.
 

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Somewhere there is a template for an acceptance speech that every new coaching hire uses to address the fan base when he/she gets hired: "we are going places nobody here has seen before", "We are going to win championships", "We are going to do it the right way", yadda yadda yadda.
Matt Campbell used the same one. We've all heard it before. It seldom actually happens though.
I am sure Matt feels he hasn't reached his "vision" yet, but he is well on his way to delivering on that pre-scripted speech. I am happy for this fan base that he got the extension and will be able to continue his quest, as I don't believe this program has been in better hands in the almost 50 years since I became an alum. Navigating the changing times in the college sport could not have been part of what he signed up for, but I trust he will get the most out of what he has available to him.
Thanks, Matt.
 

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Crazy to think if Rocco doesn't get in the endzone from the 1 on the QB sneak then we get "more Campbellball" instead of "CMC had a team ready to play a bowl game", truly a game of inches.
Winning in the margins, as they say around here.
 

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rewatched a bit this morning. What was up with the spots? SEC crew (maybe just 1 line judge) leaned heavily in favor of Miami.

Technology and AI need to take the jobs of home plate umpires and football line judges. There is no reason a computer can’t look at 3 or 4 camera angles and tell exactly where the spot is in a matter of nanoseconds. Maybe a big pile up would be difficult? Maybe refs could do a preliminary spot of the ball and then it is adjusted with video assistance. And while we are fixing the world, a frickin’ laser could shine a big dot on the field where the ball is to be spotted after each play. That’s the world I want to live in and pass on to progeny.
 
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rewatched a bit this morning. What was up with the spots? SEC crew (maybe just 1 line judge) leaned heavily in favor of Miami.

Technology and AI need to take the jobs of home plate umpires and football line judges. There is no reason a computer can’t look at 3 or 4 camera angles and tell exactly where the spot is in a matter of nanoseconds. Maybe a big pile up would be difficult? Maybe refs could do a preliminary spot of the ball and then it is adjusted with video assistance. And while we are fixing the world, a frickin’ laser could shine a big dot on the field where the ball is to be spotted after each play. That’s the world I want to live in and pass in the progeny.
We got ****** ball spots repeatedly throughout the game.
 

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Correct, nobody even talked about it. There is not one team in the country missing two NFL guys that was going to slow him down. If you think about it, we maybe had 4 starters left on defense in that game. Heacock had nobody left. What he did with that defense given the injury situation is incredible this year.

I believe these were the starters listed on the depth chart at the beginning of the season:

DL: Petersen, Onyedim, Orange

LB: Sadowksy, Bacon, McLaughlin

DB: Freyler, Verdon, Cooper, Purchase, Porter

Onyedim (portal), Porter, and Verdon all opted-out of the bowl.

Freyler got hurt in the first half.

Bacon has been out since Game 1.

McLaughlin was hurt before the season started, and has only played in 5 games all year.

Sadowsky has been banged-up all year.

Considering all that … Heacock did a great job.
 

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