Notre Dame Talk
- Thread starter cyzmyguy
- Start date
Plus...
Conference Affiliation - They already have it.
Tradition - They already have it.
Nine game conference schedules are not a deterrent for programs like ND. Uof M, MSU and Purdue will modify their schedules just like USC and every other program that plays in a conference does to make it happen.
When the four mega-conference set up comes. The B12, if there is a B12 Conference left, will be the third choice at best. Even in the mega-conference format, it is not guaranteed that ND will join a conference.
NO way because of the tradition that these three schools have with ND, having them on the schedule is worth it. They have been playing ND for four decades or more. That is not going to stop.
Being a member of the AAU is a BTC by-law, just a small detail I know, but detail.
The BTC's offer also required that ND become a AAU member.
Well, if we are projecting forward (which I guess we are doing for the Big 12, but not the B1G) have you added in the championship game revenue, and the bump in cable fees from all of Nebraska getting the BTN on basic?
Because those things are a net increase - per team.
AAU membership is not a requirement or a bylaw. It is highly, highly desired, but AAU is about research, and Notre Dame is not a research University. It is, however, a fantastic teaching University, and one that the Big Ten would be happy to admit on those strengths.
Would Notre Dame join the CIC? Probably not. But being allied with one of the best teaching Universities in the country would not diminish the Big Ten's academics in any way.
You are still under this delusion that ND is just dying to join the fox 12. You probably need to get over it, at least until the Big East, and the Big 12 dissolve.
Then you probably still need to get over it if (when) UT and ND align with each other to create whatever independent affiliation they will create.
This past year was THE year for ND to join with fox. nebbie was brought in for just that reason, put pressure on ND, and get them to sign on the dotted line. Well, it didn't happen, and when they win 9-10 games this year and go to a BCS bowl, and take the 13 or so million dollars and NOT split it with anyone else, that point will be reinforced.
I swear these hawk fans are just thick. They don't understand the simplest of concepts. I suppose genetics, and hubris are intellectual blockers for these folks, but wow. There is only so many times you can explain basic facts to these "people," before it starts to **** a person off.
Last edited:
Is the $22 million just base TV contract money or does that also include money from bowl games, NCAA basketball tourney, etc.?
I'm on record as predicting that ND and Texas, if they do anything together, will be forming a brand new conference. On record on this board as claiming that against much opposition.
That is still a possibility - if and only if the Big 12 blows up completely.
But would the B1G take ND? In a heartbeat. And would ND join the B1G or the Big East ahead of the Big 12 as presently constituted? Every time.
That is all.
Was that so hard?
First off, I consider the Big East's chance at surviving at best as good as the Big 12's. That being said, barring any additions that help the conference footprint, the Big 12 has a shelf of live of less than five years.
I could see the basketball only schools creating a conference, and ND staying in that league for their secondary sports.
But UT is going to get the best deal of any of the teams. They want their network, and if the PAC whatever allows that, I could see it.
However, ESPN didn't align themselves with UT to see them go to a conference that is already locked into a TV deal with fox.
That is absolutely why, when the current Big 12 Tier one TV contracts come up, UT, ND, and BYU joining forces and creating some type of alliance, and therefore conference, makes the most sense. They get the military academies, and some of the left out stragglers from the BCS conferences that dissolve, and make up their own affiliation. Three HUGE football schools, a league for their secondary sports, and all kinds of $$$. Each of the three schools gets their own network deals, and the stragglers say thank you for letting us in the conference.
This is kind of where I can see Iowa State ending up.
There is zero chance that Iowa State would be included in such a conference.
That's not hard to realize.
Of course there is a chance that Iowa State ends up in that type of conference.
I am sorry that it isn't the mac for you, but you look at the schools that would make up that league....A Cincinnati, a Louisville, a Mizzu are all schools that Iowa State is not dissimilar from.
The way that you continue to show absolutely no understanding of this is becoming sad to me.
"Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is…never try" -- Homer Simpson
ND won't join the B1G because of reasons beyond athletics, stemming from their Catholic beliefs.
What ND has not done, unless I have missied it, is released a statement like the other schools rumored for the Big 12, and say they are not interested, have no interest, or are not in discussions with the Big 12.
What ND has not done, unless I have missied it, is released a statement like the other schools rumored for the Big 12, and say they are not interested, have no interest, or are not in discussions with the Big 12.
I have recited the apostle's creed many times, and the line, "And at all times, we will avoid conference affiliation with the Big Ten" has never come up.
I also think that's a possibility. I don't see ND having any interest in joining the Big 12, but if they could unite with Texas and form their own conference and invite teams form the Big East that they would want in the conference then they could be interested. They could keep the new conference size at 12 because neither school wants in a 16 team conference. Texas already made some comment about possibly forming a new conference with ND so it's something they have already thought about. It could be the only way to stop the superconferences, but they better hurry up because now there's rumors out there that ACC is starting to look at teams from the Big East. This whole thing looks like it could ignite at any time. Hopefully A&M comes to their senses and stays in our conference. That might subside this for at least another year.
