I'll give you McSorely but I didn't see much from Patterson to make me think he was in the same conversation.
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I'll give you McSorely but I didn't see much from Patterson to make me think he was in the same conversation.
So you think that because the Big XII on average is the 5th best conference defensively and the Big Ten on average is the 6th best conference offensively, this somehow means that Big XII defenses are better than Big Ten offenses? You are quite literally comparing apples to oranges.
Your cute little chart shows that the average score (whatever that number is supposed to represent; you never made that clear) for Big Ten offenses (29.4) is better than the average score for Big XII defenses (28.6).
Seriously, how are you this dumb?
The money and being at the pinnacle of your profession makes the NFL attractive. (not having to recruit 17 yr olds has to be attractive as well
)Having said that....I still think the college ranks would be preferable to me. No patience in the NFL....it's pretty cutthroat.
I'd think Campbell is more suited for the college ranks. I could see him somewhere like Notre Dame if that comes available down the road......having said THAT....I think he stays at ISU at least for a few more years. At least till he wins the b12 or maybe get to the CCG. Then I think he'd be like "I accomplished what I set out to do". Seems like that sort of dude to me....
(edit. I could also see him just staying at ISU. Has a chance to be the "GOAT" and if he likes living there...why not? I believe he has young kids right? If so, the longer he stays the more attractive this scenario becomes. I know it was a big factor in KF's decision to stay)
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You sir are the most arrogant and ignorant person I’ve ever had a discussion. A low score for defenses indicates a higher performance.
It cannot be laid out any simpler to you.
In short, simple terms that you still cannot understand, you are wrong again.
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I'd say all of that is pretty spot on. Only thing I would disagree on (for me, not everyone) is the NFL. I could see wanting to make that leap if you are tired of the recruiting game and NCAA rules a la Fred Hoiberg.The money and being at the pinnacle of your profession makes the NFL attractive. (not having to recruit 17 yr olds has to be attractive as well
Having said that....I still think the college ranks would be preferable to me. No patience in the NFL....it's pretty cutthroat.
I'd think Campbell is more suited for the college ranks. I could see him somewhere like Notre Dame if that comes available down the road......having said THAT....I think he stays at ISU at least for a few more years. At least till he wins the b12 or maybe get to the CCG. Then I think he'd be like "I accomplished what I set out to do". Seems like that sort of dude to me....
(edit. I could also see him just staying at ISU. Has a chance to be the "GOAT" and if he likes living there...why not? I believe he has young kids right? If so, the longer he stays the more attractive this scenario becomes. I know it was a big factor in KF's decision to stay)
Pretty awesome to know @dexterhawk believes CMC will do things at ISU that Ferentz can't even do at Iowa
Actually my points do make sense. We were talking of fan support for this years team for Iowa. I pointed out that Iowa did in fact have a ton of support. More so than ISU showed for their games with attendance data. I used that for comparison sake. To say the fair weather comment was not exactly fair, but it does make sense. Is there more attendance now that ISU is winning? are fans coming out of the woodwork to support a winning football program if the fan base is "growing"? Not sure your claim that Iowa is shrinking and ISU is growing makes sense. If that is the case the fair weather fans are showing up for a good team right now. Fan bases do not just grow. I do not see any Iowa fans switching over to ISU or Nebraska because they have the new coaches on the block. It is the fair weather fans switching over. Then they will switch back when things go bad because they do not care.
We were literally talking about the bowl game and that's what the thread is about
That is blatantly false. Fan bases absolutely do grow. It happens time and time again. There are many factors that contribute to it, not just a good team. Yes, maybe those fans who jump on board to a good team are more elastic and will easily hop off when things aren't going so well, but the growth of Iowa State's fan base the past 10-15 years is clearly not just because of a couple 8-win seasons.
Pollard has done an incredible job of marketing ISU across the state and developing programs that build fans at an early age with the Tailgate Tour and Jr Clone Club. Get kids tied in early in their life (like a lot of us on both sides of the ISU/UI rivalry are) and they grow up as fans. They want to go to games, mom and dad have to buy tickets, etc. Then, as the kids grow up, they attend ISU (go check student body data if you don't believe me) and then become alumni and boosters, which in turn helps build those marketing programs and facilities to keep the cycle every flowing.
Nice try.
Another way for growth is ISU has a lot younger fan base. I would say the blue hairs are a solid 80% hawk fans. We have families for a fan base, Iowa gains fans by paying for the early bird special.
My idea (not likely).
Top 8 teams get byes.
Teams 9-24 play at home of higher seeded team.
Down to 16 teams, play again at home of higher seeded team.
Quarterfinals, play either at home of higher seeded team or go to "bowl games"
Semifinals - play at neutral site
Finals - neutral
If FCS can have 24 teams, now sure why FBS can't do it.
