I see quotes like that and it makes me sick, We might as well redshirt the whole team. I'm as happy as anyone else about getting Babb, White, and Allen, but shouldn't we at least give the seniors some help so that we can win this year. I dont want to wait til 2011 I want to be competitive now, but I guess all of you guys can just sit on your hands and wait 18 months to see us possibly win, I will be curious to see how evryone is doing this winter when Kansas and K-state are beating us by 20 on our home court, I sure hope Fred can coach us up.