New $49.5 mil dorm at ISU

Senolcyc

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look at how old Friley, Helser, etc. are and are still usable. Wasn't the Towers issue due to bad concrete? and weren't they already past their expected lifespan?


Things were built to last, at one time.
 

Senolcyc

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It may seem like "bloat" when project costs skyrocket due to testing of the materials and practices, but it takes one screw up (Knapp and Storm) to make it worth doing.


The bloat in government projects is because the decision makers aren't spending their own money. Contractors overprice everything and government employees don't have the financial self-interest involved to get the cost as low as it can be. When an individual or business owner builds something, they are spending their own money and are much tougher customers. When it's not your money you're spending, you're not near as tough. Contractors know that and take advantage of it.
 

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The bloat in government projects is because the decision makers aren't spending their own money. Contractors overprice everything and government employees don't have the financial self-interest involved to get the cost as low as it can be. When an individual or business owner builds something, they are spending their own money and are much tougher customers. When it's not your money you're spending, you're not near as tough. Contractors know that and take advantage of it.
That's part of it.

The other part is no one wanting to be left holding the bag when **** goes wrong, for example the structural integrity of the towers prematurely failing. Thats why so much testing and design work goes into these structures these days, thus higher costs. That's one thing that will never change and no one should be surprise about it.
 

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That looks sweet! Probably too nice for college kids.
 

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Should be a good addition to ISU. Definitely needed, especially if they every need to close down parts of BWR for a year at a time to renovate those.
 

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Do you think it will with enrollment continuing to jump up? I'm unsure about capacities about existing dorms right now.

ha. How about the capacity of the dining centers, let's deal with that first. God help you if you have a one hour lunch break and live on campus.

Or even cyride. Sardine cans on wheels during the winter, expecially the red line coming in and out of west Ames.
 

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Helser should go eventually, but would need to finish the plan at UDA with another building around the edges and finally giving UDA some green space in the middle.

I remember being told we were the last residents of that building... in spring 2004.
 

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Helser should go eventually, but would need to finish the plan at UDA with another building around the edges and finally giving UDA some green space in the middle.

I remember being told we were the last residents of that building... in spring 2004.

They did demolish part of Helser around that time, to make room for the new dining center. Which is now a decade old and probably on a list to be replaced.
 

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They did demolish part of Helser around that time, to make room for the new dining center. Which is now a decade old and probably on a list to be replaced.

That was in 02ish... UDCC opened in fall 03 (my freshman year)